The doctor? Doctor who?

[australopithecus]

I still hate the whole Doctor/River romance thing. The Doctor should be asexual, RTD went over board with the whole love nonsense.

 

[Welshidiot]

Alex Kingston is hot.

Anyone who says otherwise is a pillock.

 

[Your Funny Uncle]

I'd have thought that by the time you got to the Doctor's age how old someone looks would be pretty irrelevant to you...

 

[MRaverz]

The actress is annoying, and completely unsuitable for the roll because she looks old enough to be his mother.

Ah. You've yet to explore the appeal of an older woman to take you under her tutelage. I highly endorse them; much to learn..

Perhaps the issue is a related to the age of the viewer, you old fogies must get something out of the old women which us young'uns don't get.

 

[australopithecus]

I agree with the Alex Kingston appreciation. I would.

 

[Arcterus]

Rather a Dalek begging for mercy than anything RTD did the the series finales he wrote.

I loved the RTD finales. They were always the highlights of the season.

But it wasn't just the Dalek part. That whole episode made no sense and made a mockery of Doctor Who history.

He's not a director.

I meant writer.

Eh? The Doctor did what he often does, he turned the tables on the plans laid out by the bad guys. He still gave them a chance to reform...

Uh...when? When he stormed into their base and revealed to them that he had them beat and there was nothing they could do and then went with River Song on a massive shootout even though they didn't have to kill all of them what with the TARDIS being twenty feet away? I must have missed that part.

Daleks will do anything, even as much as make alliances or beg, to live long enough to triumph. It is completely consistent with their M.O. and one of their regularly-committed-to-screen traits.

What daleks are you talking about? Daleks feel no emotion other than hatred/anger. It has been implied that they may feel a bit of feel towards The Doctor, but that's it. Name me one instance BESIDES the season 5 finale where the daleks allied with another species? For that matter, name me one instance where they've ever begged? Daleks have an extreme sense of the superiority of their species. But this other dalek gets a gun pointed at their face and it goes, "Oh shit! Uh, uh, mercy! Please don't kill me!" To suggest that it is consistent for the daleks to be a bunch of petty, fearful wimps is nothing short of insulting. Yeah, they take measures to ensure the survival of their species, but they NEVER show such blatant, genuine fear.

 

[Prolescum]

He's not a director.

I meant writer.

Fair enough.

Eh? The Doctor did what he often does, he turned the tables on the plans laid out by the bad guys. He still gave them a chance to reform...

Uh...when? When he stormed into their base and revealed to them that he had them beat and there was nothing they could do and then went with River Song on a massive shootout even though they didn't have to kill all of them what with the TARDIS being twenty feet away? I must have missed that part.

Evidently. He said, "I want your total surrender and then I'll let you go", which was ignored. The Doctor then phoned Canton to deploy the middle finger. River Song is a murderer. This has been clear for a looong time; The Doctor shot no one. He used his sonic screwdriver to mess with the machinery.

Daleks will do anything, even as much as make alliances or beg, to live long enough to triumph. It is completely consistent with their M.O. and one of their regularly-committed-to-screen traits.

What daleks are you talking about? Daleks feel no emotion other than hatred/anger. It has been implied that they may feel a bit of feel towards The Doctor, but that's it. Name me one instance BESIDES the season 5 finale where the daleks allied with another species?

With The Master, Frontier in space.

For that matter, name me one instance where they've ever begged?

Dalek.

Daleks have an extreme sense of the superiority of their species.

Yes, they do. If some subterfuge or plea for pity will help them reach their goal, they'll do it.

But this other dalek gets a gun pointed at their face and it goes, "Oh shit! Uh, uh, mercy! Please don't kill me!" To suggest that it is consistent for the daleks to be a bunch of petty, fearful wimps is nothing short of insulting.

Lol, what would you do if I cracked a willy joke? I will note that I said none of the above.

Yeah, they take measures to ensure the survival of their species, but they NEVER show such blatant, genuine fear.

Fear doesn't need to come into it.

 

[australopithecus]

I loved the RTD finales. They were always the highlights of the season.

Seriously? Even the horrendous Jesus Doctor ending of The Last of the Time Lords? Even "let's tow the Earth home" in Journey's End?

Davis was the master of lazy deus ex machina conclusions. Don't get me wrong, he wrote some good stories but Moffat blows him out the water.

But it wasn't just the Dalek part. That whole episode made no sense and made a mockery of Doctor Who history.

The episode made perfect sense to me, and to be honest Whovian 'history' means far less to me than being entertained. The Big Bang was vastly superior to any of the RTD finales in my opinion.

 

[Your Funny Uncle]

I loved the RTD finales. They were always the highlights of the season.

Seriously? Even the horrendous Jesus Doctor ending of The Last of the Time Lords? Even "let's tow the Earth home" in Journey's End?

Aaargh! The TARDIS tug boat! *shudders*

 

[Gunboat Diplomat]

Do people actually like River Song? I find her perpetually irritating.

My wife really likes her and she is pretty damn sexy...

 

[Gunboat Diplomat]

I loved the RTD finales. They were always the highlights of the season.

Seriously? Even the horrendous Jesus Doctor ending of The Last of the Time Lords? Even "let's tow the Earth home" in Journey's End?

Davis was the master of lazy deus ex machina conclusions. Don't get me wrong, he wrote some good stories but Moffat blows him out the water.

You're concentrating on the worst parts of those episodes. Davies writes for emotion rather than plot (in contrast, Moffat's stories are far more plot-centric). The Doctor's forgiveness and his loss of another timelord were moving, as were the nadir of Journey's End or the loss of Donna's memories. The two writers employ different techniques for different effects...

The reveal in Utopia was awesome. The confrontation between the Doctor and the Master in The Sound of Drums was the highlight for me, as well as his description of Time Lord society...

The reveal in Turn Left was surprisingly good and, as I have mentioned before, the nadir of Journey's End was very dramatic. It left you wondering how the plot was going to fix itself...

Davies does have a weakness for deus ex machina endings but none of the Who writers are perfect...

 

[australopithecus]

I refuse to forgive him for that stupid CGI Dobby Doctor in TLoTTL. Emotional endings are all well and good but in every finale? Parting of ways was very good, I can even forgive the OTT emo when Rose left but it got very old after series 2.

 

[Your Funny Uncle]

 

[Prolescum]

[centre]Corridors![/centre]

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

TARDIS​

 

[Prolescum]

[centre]Let the "is she still bigger on the inside" jokes begin...[/centre]

 

[Andiferous]

I loved the RTD finales. They were always the highlights of the season.

Seriously? Even the horrendous Jesus Doctor ending of The Last of the Time Lords? Even "let's tow the Earth home" in Journey's End?

Davis was the master of lazy deus ex machina conclusions. Don't get me wrong, he wrote some good stories but Moffat blows him out the water.

But it wasn't just the Dalek part. That whole episode made no sense and made a mockery of Doctor Who history.

The episode made perfect sense to me, and to be honest Whovian 'history' means far less to me than being entertained. The Big Bang was vastly superior to any of the RTD finales in my opinion.

Heck yeah, those finales were largely responsible for drawing me into the series. I think I've re-watched them at least ten times each. That and, Tennant is really hot, especially when he's all broody.

That said, I have recently learned that daleks or anything within the Whoian universe =/= reason.

 

[Memeticemetic]

Let the "is she still bigger on the inside" jokes begin...

She will be when I'm done with 'er.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Let the "is she still bigger on the inside" jokes begin...

She will be when I'm done with 'er.

I'll bet that some people will get bigger in their pants from her.

 

[Ibis3]

That was just full of awesome. Ha! The TARDIS stole The Doctor. :lol: