DepricatedZero
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did my first multiplayer portal 2 last night, was awesome
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australopithecus said:Apparently Bioware are releasing DLC because of the nerd rage backlash due to the ending. I think people take games to seriously.
CosmicSpork said:Just started playing Star Wars: The Old Republic
Europe - Rogue Moon
Thorson - Bounty Hunter - Level 12
I was invited to play the beta a few times and by the end of it I wasn't convinced so didn't buy it until now, but they've polished it up a lot now and the future patches look promising.
I will be playing pretty casually as I don't intend to get my life sucked away like I did with WoW.
It should be noted that SWTOR is very different from SWG. SWTOR is more or less WoW in the Star Wars setting, but with a decent story. I've heard tell that EVE Online is more akin to the style of SWG.tuxbox said:I am thinking about buying SWTOR, mainly because I miss Star Wars Galaxies, but when I do I will look you up.CosmicSpork said:Just started playing Star Wars: The Old Republic
Europe - Rogue Moon
Thorson - Bounty Hunter - Level 12
I was invited to play the beta a few times and by the end of it I wasn't convinced so didn't buy it until now, but they've polished it up a lot now and the future patches look promising.
I will be playing pretty casually as I don't intend to get my life sucked away like I did with WoW.
Your Funny Uncle said:After the nerd rage I've seen over the last month I was expecting the end of ME3 to be the worst thing I'd ever seen. It was no masterpiece but it truly wasn't that bad IMO. Literally deus ex machina, yes, but those who say it didn't fit thematically with the series really need to play through the series again...
Undeath said:That said, I'm also enjoying SWTOR when I have a few spare minutes. I mostly play on the Bloodworthy Server, although in truth I feel sort of lonely since most of my friends don't seem to be around much. How well populated do you find Rogue Moon?
I think you're missing a big point:tuxbox said:[showmore=SpoilerAlert]I agree that the ending is not as bad as some of the peeps on the net make it out to be, but it was very disappointing imo. There is not a good ending to it. All the endings are 99% the same and none of them good. If you destroy the Reapers the geth and EDI die. If you control the Reapers justice is not done and the most evil things in the galaxy gets a free pass for all the suffering they have caused. And if you choose to synthesis, well that is just mucked up and justice is not served again.[/showmore]
Your Funny Uncle said:I think you're missing a big point:
[showmore=Spoilers]By destroying the reapers you are destroying the remaining traces of every spacefaring civilisation from the last 50 million years. Is it justice to do that? The means by which they act are abhorrent but they were created to stop artificial life from taking over completely. The destroy option is therefore by far the worst to me. I think that synthesis is actually the best as it allows organic and synthetic life to merge. Yes it's the most space magicy and silly in its execution but to me it's the most satisfying.[/showmore]
Your Funny Uncle said:I think you're missing a big point:
[showmore=Spoilers]By destroying the reapers you are destroying the remaining traces of every spacefaring civilisation from the last 50 million years. Is it justice to do that? The means by which they act are abhorrent but they were created to stop artificial life from taking over completely. The destroy option is therefore by far the worst to me. I think that synthesis is actually the best as it allows organic and synthetic life to merge. Yes it's the most space magicy and silly in its execution but to me it's the most satisfying.[/showmore]
[showmore=Spoilers]Whichever choice you make you are forcefully imposing your will on the whole galaxy. There isn't supposed to be a happy easy obvious choice. Synthesis is one imposition allowing free will for all in the future without destroying any.televator said:[showmore=Spoilers]Yes but you forcefully homogenize all life. You violate free will on a vast scale and remove the richness of a mixed society. I think all the options are horrendous, but I do suppose it's a better outcome to have all current life alive in some form.
Either way, the motivation behind it all was just pathetically flawed. "Synthetics will always destroy their creators." WTF? But...but...the Geth choosing to come out of hiding and partaking in a multi-genocidal campaign...was YOUR FAULT! You, the Reapers, lead the Geth to this! Then, I take it upon myself to fix your mess and broker peace between the Geth and their creators and succeed. A mission in which it is revealed to me that the Geth actually spared their creators from complete demise -- as in the opposite action of destroying all organic life -- and that it was always over zealous and belligerent Quarians (organics) who've been so gun ho and looking to do some eradication of their own. But no, apparently the all powerful super beings in the game are complete idiots who can't concede to any of this, and Shepard just goes along with this pitiful logic like a lamb to slaughter...ironically betraying his namesake.
Also, not even the mention of destroying the Mass relays even made him flinch. Maybe you'd like the Starchild to elaborate on this detail since destroying a Mass relay caused an explosion on par with a Super Nova and all the last time... No? Just gonna go along with it? Nothing to be concerned about? Okay...idiot.
Finally, don't get me started on this...
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Your Funny Uncle said:[showmore=Spoilers]Whichever choice you make you are forcefully imposing your will on the whole galaxy. There isn't supposed to be a happy easy obvious choice. Synthesis is one imposition allowing free will for all in the future without destroying any.televator said:[showmore=Spoilers]Yes but you forcefully homogenize all life. You violate free will on a vast scale and remove the richness of a mixed society. I think all the options are horrendous, but I do suppose it's a better outcome to have all current life alive in some form.
Either way, the motivation behind it all was just pathetically flawed. "Synthetics will always destroy their creators." WTF? But...but...the Geth choosing to come out of hiding and partaking in a multi-genocidal campaign...was YOUR FAULT! You, the Reapers, lead the Geth to this! Then, I take it upon myself to fix your mess and broker peace between the Geth and their creators and succeed. A mission in which it is revealed to me that the Geth actually spared their creators from complete demise -- as in the opposite action of destroying all organic life -- and that it was always over zealous and belligerent Quarians (organics) who've been so gun ho and looking to do some eradication of their own. But no, apparently the all powerful super beings in the game are complete idiots who can't concede to any of this, and Shepard just goes along with this pitiful logic like a lamb to slaughter...ironically betraying his namesake.
Also, not even the mention of destroying the Mass relays even made him flinch. Maybe you'd like the Starchild to elaborate on this detail since destroying a Mass relay caused an explosion on par with a Super Nova and all the last time... No? Just gonna go along with it? Nothing to be concerned about? Okay...idiot.
Finally, don't get me started on this...
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I do agree that the ending is way too rushed rushed and that Shepard should argue against the Starchild's logic and make it explain itself more clearly. That was the bit that I liked least actually. The Starchild has been around for millions of years though and probably has good reason to believe that the Geth will turn on organics in the end despite how they started. You can talk all you want about Shepard's experience but Starchild obviously has more. What annoys me is how little you hear of it.
As to what happens when a relay is destroyed, we know what happens when you propel a massive rock into one at speed, but how do we know what happens when they are destroyed by other means? We don't. Again I agree that Shepard should've at least argued about this one though.
As to the logic of making the reapers to kill the most advanced organics so that future organics can live, well it does seem daft on the face of it but it shouldn't be a surprise. It's been obvious since ME2 that they were harvesting not flat-out destroying life. The question was why. I don't think that it's as illogical as you seem to but again the Starchild should've explained itself more clearly.
I should probably reiterate that II don't think that the ending is GOOD just that it isn't as terrible or illogical as some believe.[/showmore]
[showmore=Spoilers]I think that logic here is that synthetics have turned on their creators many times throughout history, and as soon as one set of synthetics gains total control over the galaxy, it's game over. Irreversible. Of course you could then argue that even the synthesis option precludes future life from developing organically...[/showmore]televator said:
Your Funny Uncle said:[showmore=Spoilers]I think that logic here is that synthetics have turned on their creators many times throughout history, and as soon as one set of synthetics gains total control over the galaxy, it's game over. Irreversible. Of course you could then argue that even the synthesis option precludes future life from developing organically...[/showmore]