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US Spiralling Down

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Higher unemployment rate would be evidence of Biden doing worse.

You'd have to be reeeeeally motivated by tribalist politics to believe that's actually the case now.

Not sure if you're aware, but there's been this little pandemic raging across the world killing people and societies have closed down swathes of their public life in order to counter it. That has many effects; one being that a lot of businesses are on the ropes and either shutting down or laying off workers to survive the lack of custom.

The 'handling' of this situation was entirely under the Trump administration - and what a fucking mess they made of it!

That's why Trump's administration ended up being one of the only modern presidencies to end leaving fewer jobs than when their term started. How are you going to spin that one?

Of course, it's not fucking magic either, is it? It's not like a new president walks into office and alakazam... jobs are created with a determined wiggle of the nose and appropriately chanted words.

Rather, it takes some time which anyone credible, serious, motivated by honesty etc. would acknowledge. Time to create policies and have them get through the House and Senate... you know, something like let's say an infrastructure bill injecting investment into the economy and plausibly providing millions, even tens of millions of jobs.

I mean, assuming you were to acknowledge the real world here and accept that it takes time to create policy and have bills drafted, for those to be discussed, and eventually to become law.... then one must assume you'd then possess a reasonable expectation rather than an absurd caricature probably best left to Fox News disinformation pundits.
 
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Biden's ability to walk up a flight of stairs unaided has no logical connection to Trump's competence in any way, shape or form.
Except that Biden is LESS competent regarding stairs thus the comparison. Did Trump fall down some stairs? No. Did Biden fall down the stairs? Yes - repeatedly. Is Biden more competent than Trump managing walking? No.
You're comparing apples and oranges. oranges, in fact, inherited from and made worse by the orange in chief.
Unemployment rate is determined by if the economy is allowed to operate partially correct? Who advocated to shut down said economy more Biden or Trump? It would be Biden correct? Yes. Ok then.
I wonder what blunders we'd catch from you in an unguarded moment on camera, given the degree of incompetence you've already shown us willingly?
The whole point of the argument is showing who is more competent. Post videos of Trump being incompetent compared to Biden. Or shut the hell the up.
 
arg-fallbackName="BoganUSAFFLClerk"/>
Since navigating stairs is such a high priority for you in a President, I must ask how you feel about FDR?
The argument is that Biden is not competent at managing stairs. Is he worse at handling stairs or walking compared to Trump? Yes or No. It is funny and telling that no one will give me a straight answer.
 
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Also none of you have actually engaged the argument all you guys do is strawman and don't answer directly.
 
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Except that Biden is LESS competent regarding stairs thus the comparison. Did Trump fall down some stairs? No. Did Biden fall down the stairs? Yes - repeatedly. Is Biden more competent than Trump managing walking? No.
He's not being asked to walk up some fucking stairs. His competence in navigating ancient levitation technology is of no fucking conseqence when it comes to running the country. Answer the question put to you.
Unemployment rate is determined by if the economy is allowed to operate partially correct? Who advocated to shut down said economy more Biden or Trump? It would be Biden correct? Yes. Ok then.

The whole point of the argument is showing who is more competent. Post videos of Trump being incompetent compared to Biden. Or shut the hell the up.
OK, I've concluded that you simply have no functioning neurons, so I'll leave you to dribble into your armpits, because my tolerance for idiocy has reached a historic nadir, and you simply don't have the logical chops to parse a Dick and Jane book, let alone to engage in discourse of any value or entertainment.
 
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The argument is that Biden is not competent at managing stairs. Is he worse at handling stairs or walking compared to Trump? Yes or No.
No.
It is funny and telling that no one will give me a straight answer.
Wrong. I have been nothing but direct with you, yet you leave most of what I say on the cutting room floor. This seems to be a case of the pot calling the silverware black.
Who is a more competent public speaker Trump or Biden?
Obviously Sleepy Joe. All we have to do is watch the two debates to see that.

The funny thing is that we can actually compare the two on a few things, such as running for the US president. Who was more competent in that? We can also compare how well they were at navigating not getting a virus that can put you in the hospital for two nights while running for US President. Was Sleepy Joe more competent doing both of those? Yes or No? Who was more competent in following through on their first 100 day promises? Who handled the vaccine rollout correctly? Strange that you did not think to compare anything that can be directly compared at this point.

I am getting dandan/leroy flashbacks.
 
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I am getting dandan/leroy flashbacks.
I think that's a little unfair.

Dandan could at least string together a first-order logical inference before falling off completely. This one can't even do that.
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>

Of course you're being ignored.

You made an argument, were asked to defend that argument, then switched to arguing something completely different. And that different thing amounts to nothing more than empty-headed tribalist declarations of reality on your part. It's fucking boring man - go yammer at other tribalists on YT or something.
 
arg-fallbackName="BoganUSAFFLClerk"/>
Obviously Sleepy Joe. All we have to do is watch the two debates to see that.

The funny thing is that we can actually compare the two on a few things, such as running for the US president. Who was more competent in that? We can also compare how well they were at navigating not getting a virus that can put you in the hospital for two nights while running for US President. Was Sleepy Joe more competent doing both of those? Yes or No? Who was more competent in following through on their first 100 day promises? Who handled the vaccine rollout correctly? Strange that you did not think to compare anything that can be directly compared at this point.
Sleepy Joe can't even manage to not flub his lines with a script. Trump has no such issue. Joe is a gaff machine worse than Bush.

Wearing a mask doesn't guarantee that you don't get the Corona virus.

Trump accomplished more of his promises during the first 100 days. Biden attempts to do thing but doesn't follow through.

Biden used TRUMPS resources he set up in order to have vaccines at all. Without Trump Biden's vaccines would take longer to distribute.
 
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Of course you're being ignored.

You made an argument, were asked to defend that argument, then switched to arguing something completely different. And that different thing amounts to nothing more than empty-headed tribalist declarations of reality on your part. It's fucking boring man - go yammer at other tribalists on YT or something.
Not true was part of the original argument I made and people didn't address them. If you don't want to participate on the argument then don't type anything. Concise arguments not strawmen like you are making. Direct to the point or nothing at all.
 
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Sleepy Joe can't even manage to not flub his lines with a script. Trump has no such issue. Joe is a gaff machine worse than Bush.
Says you.
Wearing a mask doesn't guarantee that you don't get the Corona virus.
Correct, yet one of them followed this rule of thumb and the other one ended up face up in a hospital for two nights. Funny how that works. Again which one was more competent in that regard?
Trump accomplished more of his promises during the first 100 days. Biden attempts to do thing but doesn't follow through.
Citation needed.
Biden used TRUMPS resources he set up in order to have vaccines at all. Without Trump Biden's vaccines would take longer to distribute.
Again, citation needed.
 
arg-fallbackName="Sparhafoc"/>
Raaaah raaah Red Tribe! Raaah raaah Red Tribe! Down with Blues! Blues are pooey!

As I said: it's not just North Koreans who live in mental North Korea.
 
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Because we need to see just how steep and treacherous that ramp was with our own eyes so that we can know, with no further doubt in our minds, that Trump was the better President based on his ability to navigate vertical trajectories.... come on Greg... get serious in this serious conversation about serious things!
 
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How can Biden keep us safe from bear-riding Putin if he can't even manage to walk up a staircase? It's like you people don't even realize how the world works! The requirements for a valid presidential candidate expressly demand the successful navigation of stepped vertical pathways - read the Constitution sometime eh? Think about it - if he trips on the steps when under no pressure at all, how can you be sure when faced with the stress of geopolitical challenges, he won't trip on the rug and faceplant onto the big red button and accidentally unleash global Armageddon? Your blind faith in this aging Communist could literally end all life on Earth, you monsters - think about that next time you have a Castro designed voting machine using Chinese bamboo paper vote for you, eh?
 
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