This may be partly why there is anti-Islam prejudice

[bluejatheist]

Al Jazeera
Fox News
CNN
BBC
(Same News Story, Different Outlets)

From what I gather, the response of a particular group of Muslims to a jewish-funded short film that depicts Muhammad as a child molester, womanizer and violent killer (All of which I recall are 'accurate', but with a dose of anti-islam spin to them) is to burn down the U.S. embassy. Also note that a Muslim activist condemned this incident, saying that it would be interpreted as a celebration of the 9/11 attacks rather than a protest. The film was promoted by an 'anti-Muslim Christian campaigner" and the creator is in hiding in the U.S. which explains the choice of where to attack. The U.S. was said to be at fault because they didn't withdraw their personnel.

I'm wondering from this whether this tendency to deadly violence correlates to the religion / variety of the religion in that region, or is due more to other factors like state of government or extremist groups. I'm not predisposed to judging as 'because Islam is evil" but this has me unsure of what exactly is going on, whether increased violence is just the product of extremist Islam, or is a product of the unstable region that has historically been at the bloody end of U.S. and Israeli foreign policy, or something else.

Regardless, as with the title, I think such incidents as this foster 'islamaphobia' more than anything.

Edit: It came to light that the embassy attack had more to do with insurgent groups than spontaneous protests. There's still plenty of other spontaneous violence over minor blasphemy to go around though.

 

[DepricatedZero]

I think Islam certainly contributes, but only in that it provides justification and opportunity for these assholes to express themselves this way. Christians are just as bad - check out the KKK. The way the news outlets portray the events doesn't help either, with the excessively limited information they're willing to give out, it just sounds like "oh those crazy muslims are up to their old tricks again! Heres what they did but not why!"

 

[Epiquinn]

Christians are just as bad

No, they aren't.

Extremist Islamic phenomena are far more frequent than extremist Christian phenomena. If we still lived in the Middle Ages, you might be correct, but we don't. Large parts of the Muslim world however do.

 

[Prolescum]

What's the difference between the "gerroff moi land" of the Irish and the "gerroff moi land" of Afghani, Palestinians, or Arabs?

The support of Americans.

 

[Epiquinn]

What's the difference between the "gerroff moi land" of the Irish and the "gerroff moi land" of Afghani, Palestinians, or Arabs?

This attack was not a retaliation to anyone being in anyone else's land, it was a mob of people enraged over a film produced on the other side of the planet.

 

[Prolescum]

Your comment was a general statement in response to DZ's single line, and makes no reference to the item being discussed in the OP.
I apologise if I mistook your intent.

If you want to compare "extremist Islamic phenomena" with "extremist Christian phenomena", simply pay attention to American radio for a day before making your judgement.

 

[Epiquinn]

If you want to compare "extremist Islamic phenomena" with "extremist Christian phenomena", simply pay attention to American radio for a day before making your judgement.

Anything that Christian extremist radio hosts only talk about is the living reality in many Muslim countries. Even if someone acts upon it, they will be arrested and punished by the law. In countries ruled by Islamic theocracy, it's the people enforcing the law who commit such cruelties.

 

[Dogma's Demise]

Here's my view of why there is "anti-Islam prejudice":

- immoral Qur'an / Hadith teachings
- immoral prophet (warmonger, fascist/authoritarian views, pedophile etc.)
- immoral past (the 1400 years of Islam are riddled with wars of aggression to subjugate the non-believers under Islamic rule as dhimmis)
- immoral present (pick almost any Islamic country, check their human rights record, and you'll see why)
- the presence of various Muslim Brotherhood or Saudi front groups (hello CAIR, hello IFE) in western society that on the surface pretend to be "civil rights" groups for Muslims, but in reality their agenda is just to preserve a strong Islamic identity and bring Sharia law to the west (although not by terrorism or war, but by cultural means)

So please stop blaming the media. Islam has much to answer for.

See also:

 

[australopithecus]

Change the record, just once.

 

[Frenger]

Perhaps I've smoked too much wacko tobacco, but does anyone else think DD may have something against Muslims?

 

[tuxbox]

Is DD against Muslims or Islam?

 

[Frenger]

Is DD against Muslims or Islam?

I don't think he even knows anymore.

 

[Dogma's Demise]

How about you answer that for a change. Are you against Muslims (if so to what extent and which Muslims) or Islam (again to what extent)?

 

[Frenger]

Ok, well I am against organised religion. All religions. For reasons I will go into if you want.

I am not against anyone who chooses to believe in a god or practice a particular religion. I may ask why they decide to do that but I do so with no judgement.

I am against people who lie or misrepresent in the name of spreading the religion they so happen to follow and I am also against the threat of magical punishments used to keep people within those religions. People's beliefs are their own choice, their own personal decision based on the way they perceive the world they find themselves in and they should be free to make those decisions without the fear of being manipulated.

I am against the state/society being built around religious dogmas and practices, these again are personal and should be kept as such.

In short, people are free to do anything they want as long as it causes no harm to others, I think religions are harmful but not the people who follow them (on the whole).

So, your turn.

 

[australopithecus]

How about you answer that for a change. Are you against Muslims (if so to what extent and which Muslims) or Islam (again to what extent)?

I'm "against" neither. What I am opposed to is stupidity. Now before you start on another anti-Islam rant can I remind you AGAIN of the other threads you've abandoned without answering criticism.

 

[Dogma's Demise]

No, I'm not gonna start an "anti-Islam rant", although I guess it's loosely related. My point was, blame the religion, not the people who report on this religion's negative influence on humanity.

And bluej please stop using that dishonest term "Islamophobia".

Ok, well I am against organised religion. All religions. For reasons I will go into if you want.

I am not against anyone who chooses to believe in a god or practice a particular religion. I may ask why they decide to do that but I do so with no judgement.

I am against people who lie or misrepresent in the name of spreading the religion they so happen to follow and I am also against the threat of magical punishments used to keep people within those religions. People's beliefs are their own choice, their own personal decision based on the way they perceive the world they find themselves in and they should be free to make those decisions without the fear of being manipulated.

I am against the state/society being built around religious dogmas and practices, these again are personal and should be kept as such.

In short, people are free to do anything they want as long as it causes no harm to others, I think religions are harmful but not the people who follow them (on the whole).

So, your turn.

That's pretty much my view as well.

 

[tuxbox]

How about you answer that for a change. Are you against Muslims (if so to what extent and which Muslims) or Islam (again to what extent)?

I am against neither.

 

[Prolescum]

No, I'm not gonna start an "anti-Islam rant", although I guess it's loosely related. My point was, blame the religion, not the people who report on this religion's negative influence on humanity.

Yes, don't criticise the messenger regardless of how skewed the message is!

This must be the thinking behind using phrases such as "Islamized leftie" or "PC fanatics", and proffer links to JihadWatch expecting not to be ridiculed as your arse is handed back to you red raw.

In short, people are free to do anything they want as long as it causes no harm to others, I think religions are harmful but not the people who follow them (on the whole).

So, your turn.

That's pretty much my view as well.

Never before has the term "pretty much" been stretched so far. Sauce.

 

[Dogma's Demise]

"In short, people are free to do anything they want as long as it causes no harm to others" - Sharia law harms others, we've went through this already. I cannot tolerate it nor attempts to implement it whether they're successful or not.

 

[australopithecus]

"In short, people are free to do anything they want as long as it causes no harm to others" - Sharia law harms others, we've went through this already. I cannot tolerate it nor attempts to implement it whether they're successful or not.

So other than shouting about it on the Internet, what exactly are you doing about it?