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Their evidence is not suspect if you actually read the articles you'll see they comment and provide an alternative view on a mainstream article that has been credibly published with verifiable evidence. So if anything it's not their evidence that is in-credible but their opinion.Fullmetalgeneticist said:See here is the problem. Not mainstream journalism, equals non verifiable sources which brings suspect evidence.
Quote me....Fullmetalgeneticist said:No... What I said was a way to distinguish between the Aboriginal Australians and the Other Australians who come under many different shades. Insulting? You said far more demeaning things about the aborigines than me calling you an immigrant... Quite the double standards mate.
You keep looking back to the past whilst I acknowledge it and look to the future. Just to add I've personally been racially abused by Aboriginals yet I've never racially abused them back.Fullmetalgeneticist said:It's the fault of a people who were in the height of wood and stone technology who were abused and systematically destroyed by white people because of their skin colour and their relative disparateness and treated like animals well into the 1960s...
You have had no special treatment because of your skin but they have had mistreatment for theirs. And that kind of logic is dumb and goes down a terrible route.
Thats a bit of an over generalisation, and I also think you should add some evidence to support that statement....Fullmetalgeneticist said:They are druggies and alcies for the same reason that hobos are druggies and alcies... Because they got nothing to live for. They seek escape.
Even with all this money they still are a second underclass, have you read an article discussing life expectancy and general health comparing that of Aboriginals to non-aboriginals?Fullmetalgeneticist said:The money is so that they don't freaking starve and so you don't have a second underclass of people who will fester. It's called a socially responsible government.
"Aboriginal people can expect to live up to twenty years less than non-Indigenous Australians. Indigenous life expectancy is so low because Aboriginal health standards in Australia are now so bad that 45% of Aboriginal men and 34% of women die before the age of 45. 71% die before they reach the age of 65.
According to the United Nations, the quality of life of Aboriginal people is the second worst of the planet,only China rates worse." - http://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/health/aboriginal-life-expectancy.html
My parents and grandparents had nothing to do with Australian politics.... Again that's insulting me and my family.Fullmetalgeneticist said:Yes. It shows acceptance of a flaw. It shows an understanding of history and a willingness to realise that you came from the baddies.
Again you're looking back to the past. And yes it's not going to be instantaneous but it there needs to be a push to look forward to the future rather than bringing up the problems of the past as being the reason for the problems of today, it's the same as grieving the loss of a loved one.Fullmetalgeneticist said:And it means prior to the 1970s Aborigines were treated with no basic human rights and people saw them as Not Human. You expect people to change? Black people to this day in the US aren't seen as equals and India got its independance in the freaking 1940s and still have to face racism in the UK. It's not an instantaneous thing, particularly considering some of the statements you have made which if you replace aborigine with Jew or African would get you the label of Nazi/White Supremacist.
Slippery slope argument. What I mean is if you have two people born into the same country with the same opportunity and one takes that opportunity and the other doesn't, is it the fault of the society that one took it and one didn't, or the fault of the individual?Fullmetalgeneticist said:You have had no special treatment because of your skin but they have had mistreatment for theirs. And that kind of logic is dumb and goes down a terrible route.