My stance on this is basically withdraw back into the country. Foreign aid goes away. Spending money in foreign locations without any gain goes away. U.S. citizen's money should be spent on America not to someone else especially when our own house is not in order.
Keep in mind proposed bills have hidden clauses in them often that have NO relation to the scope of the proposed legislation. For example he also stonewalled gun controls that even you would disagree with. He is a double edged sword that is far more traditionalist than I am but a traditionalist none the less.
All the cartel would do is simply steal the money the U.S. would stake in dealing with the cartels remember the cartels are the government in Mexico. Basically it would have to be in the eye of the public a joint task force with Mexico to completely eliminate the cartels you would essentially have to operate outside of the law because the Cartel is in every facet of government.
That is a generalization and not accurate. The TSA hasn't done anything they have caught precisely 0 people and with a huge operational cost. Also listening in and supposedly not listening anymore if the conversation is irrelevant to terrorism is nonsensical.
Remember when I argued Orwellian and devils in the details? Again other things are made part of proposed legislation that have nothing to do with the proposed legislation which is why they don't allow it through.
Why would either one of those be a crime?
Yet you are defending police officers’ use of force. Remember, their power comes from the government. The same government you just declared corrupt and incompetent. The doublethink is strong in this one.
Your output here demonstrates that quite readily.
That's the burning question.
You contribute precisely dick to the argument. You haven't an argument as to why my output here is of low quality. You are specifically why any mute or ignore function is considered.
It is stupid if you go on tangents in regards to legislation it is harder to win people's vote in order to implement x law if you expand it or alter it in such a way in order for it to be a "deal breaker". Sneaking in gun legislation for example in an infrastructure bill is just 1 such example and 1 such an example of corruption/incompetence. Why not simply focus on what you actually think should pass and not try to use subterfuge in order to most likely kill whatever legislation you support? It is a dumb move man plain and simple.
Again the bills suggested are mixed in intent, scope and severity. Those bills are killed because people agree minorly with the legislation and disagree with it in the majority. Focus on the majority intent of the bill and delete the irrelevant minority from the bill. Focus on what is actually important instead of wasting time trying to attack every little facet and attempting to implement stuff that has absolutely the tiniest degree of support.
You would have to maneuver the U.S. in acting unilaterally in Mexico sometimes without the consent of their government in order to remove cartel members or people acting on the behalf of the cartel in government. They are deeply entrenched and I think you would essentially have to break the law in order to accomplish anything long standing. For example targeting leaders and their families for execution for their involvement and being complicit with usurping power of the Mexican government for organized criminal purposes.
Orwellian such as gun control? I believe I already covered that. I also brought up the Orwellian nature of the group think that is Corona. Sure wear your mask but it is YOUR mask. I can choose not to wear one and claiming the defacto "public safety" in order to say weld people into their homes during a pandemic is really Orwellian, Draconian, Authoritarian etc.
How does the robot enforce the law when it comes to "letter of the law" and "spirit of the law"? Laws at times are inherently contradictory. How would the robot navigate an arrest or use of force when it comes to these?
Sleeping in your car isn't a crime. I don't believe I argued sleeping in your car is a crime. Currently the law is that weed is federally prohibited and prohibited by statute.
You are operating on generalities. This is why many comments ago I argued for simply asking questions to clarify the position. You have to pose arguments against my arguments not just blindly argue something without clarification.
Because people can and do care about fixing more than one issue at a time, Bogan. I really don't know what else to tell you, dude. Democrats feel that gun regulation reform is necessary, they don't expect it to pass on its own, so they tack it on to things that everyone can agree with and maybe try to make a concession or two as to what else goes into a bill.
Maybe, just maybe, the stuff you want to pass that has only a tiny amount of support gets tossed in with something with much more wide spread support in order to give it a chance to pass? I dunno, maybe.
Alright, my dude. I totally agree. 100%.
Well, naturally. Although, calling it purely academic is demonstrably false: we've seen what improved infrastructure's done for the Italians and the Irish in the US, and we've seen abroad how the legalization of prostitution and extending legal protections to illegal immigrants has had a negative impact on organized crime and its ability to function in those countries. We know this stuff works, and works quite a lot better than what we do in the US nowadays.
Well, I suppose you're right about that one. Forgive my tangent?
I'm unsure as to why you seem to think that there exists no anti-cartel faction in the Mexican government.
That sounds really dumb? Maybe we could rely on international law and intervention instead? Or we could prop up anti-cartel factions and empower them to dismantle and imprison cartel leaders and cartel backed politicians. We don't really need to go full Metal Gear, here.
You were incredibly unpersuasive; gun regulation has never amounted to the complete banning of firearms in the US, and given our gun culture it likely never will. Especially if I have my way, and we just go full on leftist in the coming years. Hardly compares to the government being able to spy on you, just because.
Given that you're hopelessly incompetent concerning matters such as public health, vaccinations, and how a piece of cloth covering your face functions, would you mind if we just drop this now and call it a day? I'm running low on my blood pressure medicine, you see.
This is the bit where you educate the class as to which of Orwell's writings dealt with gun control.
But the likely result is that BOTH intents fail - both measures fail. It isn't more likely that BOTH succeed. What is the point of REDUCING your odds of passing what is LIKELY to pass such as infrastructure? Wouldn't it be better to simply ignore gun controls in favor of infrastructure to actually effect something objectively positive like say bridges not collapsing due to neglect and/or better roads that carry goods across the nation the nation depends on in order to operate? Is it better to just infinitely STALEMATE yourself? Its nonsensical.
That doesn't seem to be the case. I can't name one significant gun control legislation that has passed that is in favor of restriction. I can only think of deregulation passing. They are achieving the opposite effect seems pointless to continue what they are doing given the trend of deregulation.
Obviously the context I am referring to is in regards tot he videos I posted i.e. this thread. You can't exactly bring a pot smoker back from the dead from being retarded and fleeing and as a result being shot and killed.
If I can't tell any positive effect against the cartel and the cartel continues you primarily influence the Mexican government then those anti cartel factions are near powerless. They are mostly ineffective at fixing the issue. I don't want temporary solution I want permeant lasting solution. How long as the cartel been in power in Mexico do you think?
When will international law and intervention fix the cartels? How long have those laws been in effect and how long has the cartels been operating for like they have operating and exerting influence over the Mexican government? When will international law make it so the cartels don't exist or don't have any power or any major ability to influence corrupt governments? Have they been effective? To what degree have they been effective? The cartel has more resources than the Mexican government correct? They are more successful currently than at in any other point in history because they have ties to the Mexican government as well as others INTERNATIONALLY and yet they haven't been defeated. I want them to be defeated and wiped out. When will international or an intervention accomplish this? I don't think it will ever not unless this taken seriously and is headed by competent and not allow the cartel to influence the investigation made by the U.S. into Mexico.
Gun Regulation by its nature has been implemented to ban firearms in other countries to a significant degree and with irritatingly ARBITRARY measures elsewhere as well as in the U.S.. It is inherently dystopian that the government is here to save you yet they cannot even competently manage the upkeep of ROADS and yet they want to manage firearms against 330m+ people and far more in terms of firearms. Totally untenable but likely only results in the arbitrary enforcement of gun controls in the U.S. example is short barrel rifle law. Totally pointless.
I remember the CDC guidelines changing multiple times and many times with conflicting information. I remember mandates that were entirely arbitrary in so the implementation of wearing masks. How do you go a restaurant with requiring face masks? How do you operate a FFL while complying with mask mandates? You cannot. In some instances masks are stupid and defeat the entire purpose of you you went to a location altogether. The entire notion of forcing you to wear a mask when you consider the logistics of the business you are in is completely arbitrary and totally contradictory to the purpose of the mask.
Politics sucks, man.
Unironically, people have been just publically, unjustly killed by police officers, having posed no threat to them at the time. Why is it retarded to be afraid of them, especially in our country where we rely so heavily on incredibly ineffective warrior training that teaches the police to be naturally antagonistic towards the very public they're meant to serve, turning them into paranoid assholes with guns?
International law has to be enforced by nations that don't necessarily have an interest in doing so. Also, I assure you Bogan, the cartel and all its resources pales before the US government. We could unironically turn any anti-cartel faction into the dominant force of Mexico in a single night if we wanted. Seriously dude, our military budget could be used to run several nations.
Okay...?
Wow, it's almost as if they were reacting to a developing situation and altering their approach as they received new data which suggested different approaches. You know, like reasonably intelligent people?
I'm not gonna lie to you, Bogan. I'm pretty sure that if I ask you how it's arbitrary, that you're gonna give me some laughably stupid argument in response, if you even bother to answer the question at all.
I'm fairly certain that a lot of those places were, well, shut down during the worst Covid spikes. I imagine they'll shut down again, soon enough.
