Jason101 aka Jason Burn's paper discussion thread.

[DutchLiam84]

From Jason:

You know who you are now back down and leave me in peace or read my worldclass paper and debate me.

[sauce]
:shock:

 

[tsarenvy]

Jay's latest...

Glory,Glory thankyou for giving me the victory , thankyou that Matt Dillahunty is scared to debate me.Thankyou that AronRa is scared to debate me.Thankyou for this amazing victory.Please help me now to finish my paper and send the rest of the famous athiests packing.Contra mundum atheists , you are loosing ,soon you will be intellectualy demolished


...in the end you can't help but love him! :lol:

 

[*SD*]

Now the treacherous little shit has deleted just about every video he's made in the last week, gee, that's so unusual....

 

[AronRa]

I admit I argue with these people out of morbid fascination. How can someone's perception and perspective be so poisoned and their rationale so dysfunctional? Every theist is like a new experiment to me.

Is this person reasonable? Sadly, no.

Next.

Can this person be reasoned with? Wow. Not a chance. This idiot is an unintelligible slobbering goon who's not even capable of human discourse.

Next.

Can you be reasoned with? OWCH! Crap, I guess not.

Next.

 

[australopithecus]

Now the treacherous little shit has deleted just about every video he's made in the last week, gee, that's so unusual....

Don't suppose anyone's mirrored them?

 

[Prolescum]

Can we please learn the difference between "he's completely full of shit", "what a fucking shitty thing to do", and "he's a little shit"?

This isn't YouTube, and our rules apply to all members when commenting on these boards. This forum is for rational and preferably reasoned discussion, not an extention of that other site's comments section.

It will stand us all in good stead to proof-read before posting.

 

[Vivre]

For the record
- I've allowed myself to save the public comments and made them available here: jay_allComs.zip
and a mirrored version of Famous Atheists Intimidate Jason Burns Of YouTube
is still up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkIzlA4H78g

I'm really surprised how long Jason kept this video & comments alive. Except for disabling the comment-ratings (to recover his own down-voted posts) I couldn't make out any deleting of comments. As for RIZLA I think he had been blocked again half on the way.

Don't suppose anyone's mirrored them?

at your service ;-)

 

[Hamster]

Now the treacherous little shit has deleted just about every video he's made in the last week, gee, that's so unusual....

thats being uncharitable I thought my browser was broken when suddenly the latest vid on his channel was a week old.

Whats next ? maybe a video that the nasty irrational militant atheist leaders have forced him to delete his videos and leave youtube ? :lol:


the channel Jason Burns seems to get most of them. Jay claims its not him.

 

[forgotten observer]

Can we please learn the difference between "he's completely full of shit", "what a fucking shitty thing to do", and "he's a little shit"?

This isn't YouTube, and our rules apply to all members when commenting on these boards. This forum is for rational and preferably reasoned discussion, not an extention of that other site's comments section.

It will stand us all in good stead to proof-read before posting.

That's a double standard, nobody corrected Australopithecus for calling Yesyouneedjesus an"odious, lying little shit." Right here http://www.leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=9999&start=160 !

 

[australopithecus]

Probably because it doesn't need correcting. It's totally accurate.

Regardless, we all cross the line sometimes. If you want to search through 4 years of posts and point out every insult that goes unchallenged you'll be busy for a while.

 

[forgotten observer]

Probably because it doesn't need correcting. It's totally accurate.

Regardless, we all cross the line sometimes. If you want to search through 4 years of posts and point out every insult that goes unchallenged you'll be busy for a while.

Yes true, but it was more that he specified "Lying little shit" and you had written that right there in blue and white. Nevermind, I'm just grumpy because I'm tired, excuse me.

 

[pookylies]

This idiot is an unintelligible slobbering goon who's not even capable of human discourse.

According to a comment of his made under one of Jason's recent videos, AronRa is proud of the fact that he has been polite towards Jason during this recent 'episode'. All I can say is that if this is what passes as 'polite' in the world of Ra, I would hate to be in the vicinity if he ever decides to be rude about somebody.

I'm also slightly surprised to hear that Australopithecus called somebody an "odious, lying little shit" on this site. Afterall, he's the young gentleman that banned me for correcting somebody's English (although admittedly it wasn't Jason's). Or maybe it was because I asked a quiz question on a topic not wholly relevant to the matter at hand. Either way, one could be forgiven for thinking there are two sets of rules in operation on this forum.

 

[Prolescum]

Yes true, but it was more that he specified "Lying little shit" and you had written that right there in blue and white. Nevermind, I'm just grumpy because I'm tired, excuse me.

I picked that one because it was at the top of the page.

Austra makes the point there that we all get carried away (I've had my fair share of proper warnings in the past - it's the racists; fucking hate those wankers!), and I'd like to add that I wasn't making a threat of expulsion or anything quite so formal, only asking that members curb the insults (hence the please); it's counter-productive (one of Jason's contentions is that atheists are nasty, for example) and devalues the conversation, giving others tacit permission to do likewise.

Pooks, you received a two-week ban for trolling as per:

Generally being excessively crude, irritating or attempting to troll for lulz may get you banned at the discretion of the moderators.

 

[*SD*]

Can we please learn the difference between "he's completely full of shit", "what a fucking shitty thing to do", and "he's a little shit"?

This isn't YouTube, and our rules apply to all members when commenting on these boards. This forum is for rational and preferably reasoned discussion, not an extention of that other site's comments section.

It will stand us all in good stead to proof-read before posting.

Happy to learn the difference, could you explain it without splitting hairs?
Not trying to be "funny" and in all fairness, I should read the rules, and I will. Just seems odd that you would object to a comment of mine, which an admin quoted (in order to ask a question, not object to). If what I said is "against the rules" then I apologize for breaking the rules, but not for holding the aforementioned opinion on Mr Burns.
No disrespect intended.

 

[Prolescum]

One is asserting that his views are shit (Jesus is my lover and whatnot), one that his actions are shitty (oh noes, I lied on this video; better remove it), one is calling him a little shit (he's a little shit). You can say what you like about his professed views or his actions.

I hope that clears it up.

 

[australopithecus]

This idiot is an unintelligible slobbering goon who's not even capable of human discourse.

According to a comment of his made under one of Jason's recent videos, AronRa is proud of the fact that he has been polite towards Jason during this recent 'episode'. All I can say is that if this is what passes as 'polite' in the world of Ra, I would hate to be in the vicinity if he ever decides to be rude about somebody.

I'm also slightly surprised to hear that Australopithecus called somebody an "odious, lying little shit" on this site. Afterall, he's the young gentleman that banned me for correcting somebody's English (although admittedly it wasn't Jason's). Or maybe it was because I asked a quiz question on a topic not wholly relevant to the matter at hand. Either way, one could be forgiven for thinking there are two sets of rules in operation on this forum.

Nope, there's only one set of rules. Read them if you like.

 

[Engelbert]

I admit I argue with these people out of morbid fascination. How can someone's perception and perspective be so poisoned and their rationale so dysfunctional? Every theist is like a new experiment to me.

Is this person reasonable? Sadly, no.

Next.

Can this person be reasoned with? Wow. Not a chance. This idiot is an unintelligible slobbering goon who's not even capable of human discourse.

Next.

Can you be reasoned with? OWCH! Crap, I guess not.

Next.

You determine that Jason cannot be reasoned with from your brief and rather hostile online discussion on this site.

You have called him "mentally handicapped" and attacked in the strongest terms everything that he holds most dear.

What were you expecting from this man?

Were you just in it for the laughs?

As admirable as that is for someone who seems to be a representative of at least some atheists, is that approach conducive to a reasonable reaction?

Do you know who you are dealing with in Jason? Perhaps you do, I'm not sure, but at times I have wondered if you think he is merely a Christian parishioner on youtube. Are you aware that he is more than just a Christian believer, he is a preacher of many years and has been the pastor of a church, as well as having achieved a degree in theology (so he claims - and I happen to believe him)?

You may well be aware, but given his entire devotion and lifetime's commitment to his faith, did you expect that a brief, unpleasant exchange on a forum would give you anything other than some cheap thrills? What you seek to do in removing his faith, is not only to remove some of the strongest psychological convictions that people hold, but to undermine his entire life, his social groups, his networks, his philosophy, his education and further to this his prospective occupation, potentially leaving him with absolutely nothing, a position far worse than an average believer with a career. An extremely harsh blow that you hope will be softened with descriptions such as "slobbering goon"? What are you offering him as a way forward? Anything constructive? Or is the goal simply to destroy the faith, then leave the remains of whoever's life that is and move on? I suspect that you might have an answer to that one, such as a 'rational world view'. Fine, but when considering how high up the 'transcendental tree' someone like a preacher might find themselves after a life's work, the fall is probably too far to jump. Perhaps some might make it, but for someone who has literally committed their entire life to their position, the come down might require more of a coax showing some new potential directions and work choices, than a bone shattering jump from its heights. Starting from square one after a lifetime of preaching is not an easy step to take, as I'm sure you well know from some of the acquaintances you have made. It may be for some, but of course it's not easy for everybody, maybe taking months or years and it's probably impossible for many.

Given your concerns about Jason's apparent mental disposition, did you send him any private messages or contact outlining your misgivings, attempts to understand his circumstances or perhaps any efforts to find some form of resolution before your public acceptance of his challenges and proceeding assaults on his position? Perhaps you did, but I don't think that this happened from what I saw.

Should I engage people as you have with Jason in the future? Regardless of its technical accuracy, would an accusation of dishonesty and delusion regarding some of your most important personal beliefs make you respond in kind, or quite the opposite?

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

 

[jskemp1970]

It would appear that all uploaded videos have "disappeared" from AtheismExamined. Whether this is due to Jay having deleted them, made them private, or (more likely) an international atheist conspiracy lead by DPR Jones, who can tell? I'm sure we will be told soon.

Mo Jay, Mo Melodrama.

 

[WalkingFish]

Were you just in it for the laughs?

What's funny is by that same rationale, if you were to running to a former slave holder or white supremacist who built their whole life upon that identity, they should be handled with kid gloves when introducing them into reality. It seems you would also have to extend this courtesy when talking to members of the Westborough Baptist Church.

I don't believe it to be true, but what if an atheist had their identity invested in atheism, wouldn't Jason be doing the same thing by launching daily attacks to that worldview? Jason, In the recent past, has made video after video spreading lies about individual people and spreading misinformation as often as he could. He has resorted to name-calling threatening and all sorts of other antagonistic behavior. Now when one of the people that he constantly harassed engages in a discussion with him and he responds like a two-year-old, I don't think any rational person could expect anything less then what you are seeing in this form and under the comments of his videos.

In Jason's case, if the punishment were to fit the crime, then he should go stand in the corner until he learns how to play with others... But Jason is a little too old for that so that's why we have adult dialog.

I will assume you are just now hearing about Jason Burns, or your statement makes absolutely no sense.