Why is the Earth Round?

[Stripe]

Now for the last time, how would we test for your Atlantic Ejaculate hypothesis? How would we determine if it were an accurate representation of reality or not? Because if it is unfalsifiable, then it has bigger problems then simply being hopelessly scientifically illiterate, stupid, and requiring magic.

We should stay on topic. A particular event is not the issue right now. The issue is to explain the idea. When you have the explanation you will know how to constrain the assumed event in time and magnitude. When you have constrained the event we can look for evidence of it.

The Moon is the easiest place to start.

 

[Anachronous Rex]

Now for the last time, how would we test for your Atlantic Ejaculate hypothesis? How would we determine if it were an accurate representation of reality or not? Because if it is unfalsifiable, then it has bigger problems then simply being hopelessly scientifically illiterate, stupid, and requiring magic.

We should stay on topic. A particular event is not the issue right now. The issue is to explain the idea. When you have the explanation you will know how to constrain the assumed event in time and magnitude. When you have constrained the event we can look for evidence of it.

The Moon is the easiest place to start.

Yes we should stay on topic. You know what would be the most helpful in explaining the idea? Not shifting to the fucking moon. We want to know what caused the Earth to randomly ejaculate, and then we want to know how to test if this has ever happened. Stop stalling and get to it.

 

[Stripe]

Yes we should stay on topic. You know what would be the most helpful in explaining the idea? Not shifting to the fucking moon. We want to know what caused the Earth to randomly ejaculate, and then we want to know how to test if this has ever happened. Stop stalling and get to it.

Or we could look at the Moon. It's a much easier case study.

Once that is covered it will point back to the Earth.

 

[nasher168]

Friction is greater under greater pressure.

But the movements causing friction are not primarily happening at the core. They are happening at the site where all this material was lifted, and on the opposite side of the planet. So friction would be greatest in those regions, despite the lower pressures.
The dense material in the core can continue to sit there quite happily. It doesn't have to move to fill the gap. It is still the most dense material and will stay sitting at the core whilst chaos reigns nearer the surface.

 

[Anachronous Rex]

Yes we should stay on topic. You know what would be the most helpful in explaining the idea? Not shifting to the fucking moon. We want to know what caused the Earth to randomly ejaculate, and then we want to know how to test if this has ever happened. Stop stalling and get to it.

Or we could look at the Moon. It's a much easier case study.

Once that is covered it will point back to the Earth.

I don't want to hear a single word from you that isn't an explanation for how this ejaculate could have happened, or a means to test if it did.

 

[Stripe]

But the movements causing friction are not primarily happening at the core. They are happening at the site where all this material was lifted, and on the opposite side of the planet. So friction would be greatest in those regions, despite the lower pressures.

The mass moves from the opposite side to the excavated site and thus through the center of the Earth.

The dense material in the core can continue to sit there quite happily. It doesn't have to move to fill the gap. It is still the most dense material and will stay sitting at the core whilst chaos reigns nearer the surface.

Nope. Have a look at the little diagram drawn.

 

[Stripe]

I don't want to hear a single word from you that isn't an explanation for how this ejaculate could have happened, or a means to test if it did.

Demanding little blighter, aren't you? :?

 

[Stripe]

The core is affected.

 

[Anachronous Rex]

I don't want to hear a single word from you that isn't an explanation for how this ejaculate could have happened, or a means to test if it did.

Demanding little blighter, aren't you? :?

Still not an answer. Come on then, what are you afraid of?

 

[Anachronous Rex]

The core is affected.

An illustration does not make it true.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

The core is affected.

:lol:

Yes! Who needs math and evidence when one can just use a picture someone else made based on a vague description given thus far.

This has to be the funniest thread ever created on this forum. What an entertaining little troll we have here.

 

[Stripe]

An illustration does not make it true.

And saying an illustration does not make it true does not make the illustration wrong.

The question was asked, an explanation has been given. If you disagree with the explanation, you need to give good reason.

 

[scalyblue]

If you disagree with the explanation, you need to give good reason.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

The question was asked, an explanation has been given. If you disagree with the explanation, you need to give good reason.

Easy enough.

nasher168[/url]"]But the movements causing friction are not primarily happening at the core. They are happening at the site where all this material was lifted, and on the opposite side of the planet. So friction would be greatest in those regions, despite the lower pressures.
The dense material in the core can continue to sit there quite happily. It doesn't have to move to fill the gap. It is still the most dense material and will stay sitting at the core whilst chaos reigns nearer the surface.

 

[Anachronous Rex]

An illustration does not make it true.

And saying an illustration does not make it true does not make the illustration wrong.

You seem to be confused about where the burden of proof lies. (it's with you, by the way.)

The question was asked, an explanation has been given. If you disagree with the explanation, you need to give good reason.

But the movements causing friction are not primarily happening at the core. They are happening at the site where all this material was lifted, and on the opposite side of the planet. So friction would be greatest in those regions, despite the lower pressures.
The dense material in the core can continue to sit there quite happily. It doesn't have to move to fill the gap. It is still the most dense material and will stay sitting at the core whilst chaos reigns nearer the surface.

You know how I know that you're full of shit? Because no one who actually has a coherent idea worth defending spends this much time dancing around criticism. You have to make sure that nothing anyone here ever says manages to make full body contact with your idea because if it ever did...

It's also why you have to insulate your idea from us and won't tell us, for instance:
What caused the Earth to randomly ejaculate, and how to test if this has ever happened.

 

[Stripe]

Nasher's analysis is wrong.

Movement of mass will occur along lines of least resistance to the area excavated through the center of the Earth (or Moon) from the antipodean point. And pressure is greatest at the core. Thus more friction and heat will be generated at the core than anywhere else.

 

[nasher168]

[uses picture] The core is affected.

The picture was drawn to represent what you believe happens, not to be used as a factual source of information.

This is closer to what would actually happen:

This is not to say no heating at all would occur at the core. But there would not be much compared with that near the surface.

The path of least resistance is not through the centre. As you said yourself, it is high-pressure. It therefore takes more force to push through it. It would be far easier for the mantle surrounding the hole to fill the gap, then for mantle on the other side to flow into the new low-pressure regions of the mantle.

AND the material trying to move through is lighter than the core, so would "float" around the edge rather than press through to the other side.

AND the core doesn't want to go anywhere. It will always try to keep at the centre.

 

[devilsadvocate]

What caused the Earth to randomly ejaculate, and how to test if this has ever happened?

+1 for these two questions.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

Stripe. I see you like to talk about Gravity...

Do you know any Physics at all? Do you realize that if the Moon just "Popped" out of the planet without initial causation for such a reaction of MUCH GREATER MAGNITUDE, that:
1) It wouldn't happen, because you need an impact of greater magnitude than the mass of the objects in order to push outwards and exceed the gravitational attraction between the two masses,
2) IF IT MAGICALLY DID somehow without momentum, the bodies would have collided with one-another due to gravitational attraction.

I'll keep it simple for you, since I'm obviously feeding our infamous troll and I don't want to waste my breath:
Input Energy - Energy lost during impact - Energy lost due to natural force of gravitational attraction of the masses + Angular momentum gained from the not-spherical earth = The Energy the Moon has today

Mass just doesn't "pop" out of something. The impact would have been so catastrophic that it would have smashed the earth into pieces.

 

[Stripe]

Stripe. I see you like to talk about Gravity...

Do you know any Physics at all? Do you realize that if the Moon just "Popped" out of the planet without initial causation for such a reaction of MUCH GREATER MAGNITUDE, that:
1) It wouldn't happen, because you need an impact of greater magnitude than the mass of the objects in order to push outwards and exceed the gravitational attraction between the two masses,
2) IF IT MAGICALLY DID somehow without momentum, the bodies would have collided with one-another due to gravitational attraction.

I'll keep it simple for you, since I'm obviously feeding our infamous troll and I don't want to waste my breath:
Input Energy - Energy lost during impact - Energy lost due to natural force of gravitational attraction of the masses + Angular momentum gained from the not-spherical earth = The Energy the Moon has today

Mass just doesn't "pop" out of something. The impact would have been so catastrophic that it would have smashed the earth into pieces.

The Moon did not originate on Earth.