Josephhasfun01
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All that can be conclusively proven is that around the time gospels were written, it wasn't uncommon for biographies to detail miraculous deeds performed by the subject. I have to say, though, considering miracles by definition are extremely rare occurrences that defy what we know is possible, and considering that people misinterpreting what they hear or see, being gullible, or simply lying is not exactly uncommon and doesn't violate any laws of nature, I'm persuaded that most likely none of that stuff actually happened.
I always love it when you weigh in Advocate.
considering miracles by definition are extremely rare occurrences
Yes, extremely rare. However I ask that you not be so easiuly swayed that miracles do not happen.
I'm persuaded that most likely none of that stuff actually happened
If Jesus is truly the son of God then you should of course feel differently about miraclse. By definition your birth was a miracle. It was a rare occurance. You will only be born once physically.
Anthony Flew has a pretty good definition of miracles. I can't remember it exactly but it was something like, a mirical is the laws of nature not left to their own devices (something like that). I agree that miracal don't happen unless God has something to say about it.
Another thing to think about is my assertion that the people you listed all have been said to have done one or two the many miracles that Jesus performed. I find it odd that they make the same claim of miracles that were attributed to Jesus. It would be more probable that three or four people heard of Jesus miralcles and they attempted to copy them in order to stake their claim to fame. I only researched one of the people you listed and He was known as a person that scammed and tricked people. It would be more reasonable to say that if miracles were possible and had actually hapenned, then the one that had been claimed to have done them all throughout his life would over rule various ones that plagiarized the various miracles that Jesus did. It just seems obvious to me that immatation of the miracles that Jesus did by various people, with at least one of those people you listed being a know swindler, that they were merely people trying to immulate Jesus by immatating His miracles. It is very suspect.