What good does hatred do?

[Exmortis]

Heh, heh... Yeah, we say we are near brisbane, but don't be fooled that town is a decoy. The real ipswich is located underneath sydney and soon we can rise up fom our underground empire and take over all of world.

MUHAHAHAHA! WE ARE THE MIGHTY MOLE MEN OF IPSWICH! ALL SHALL TREMBLE BEFORE OUR MIGHT!!!

Errm... What?...

 

[AdmiralPeacock]

Heh, heh... Yeah, we say we are near brisbane, but don't be fooled that town is a decoy. The real ipswich is located underneath sydney and soon we can rise up fom our underground empire and take over all of world.

MUHAHAHAHA! WE ARE THE MIGHTY MOLE MEN OF IPSWICH! ALL SHALL TREMBLE BEFORE OUR MIGHT!!!

Errm... What?...

Riiiiiight. So busted.

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

It all stems from fear.

Anger is a form of fear - hate, is an extreme form of fear - as are rage, fury and terror.

When faced with such, it's best to try and find out of what exactly is the person afraid.

Yes, it can be dangerous trying to do so - but it's one way to get that person to look at themselves, identify what's frightening them and then you can address it, thus showing them that you're not the "monster" they perceive you to be.

Kindest regards,

James

 

[Commander Eagle]

Anger is a form of fear - hate, is an extreme form of fear - as are rage, fury and terror.

Am I the only one who heard Yoda's voice saying that?

On a more serious note, I think you're right, Dragan, but it rarely works. Someone who is irrationally afraid of something isn't likely to change their minds. You can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into - or, at the very least, such things only happen once in every hundred tries.

 

[Independent Vision]

Well, I am from ipswich, which isn't very far from Sydney, and I turned out okay.

Well I am from Provo, which isn't very far from Los Angeles, and I'm a movie star.

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

Anger is a form of fear - hate, is an extreme form of fear - as are rage, fury and terror.

Am I the only one who heard Yoda's voice saying that?

On a more serious note, I think you're right, Dragan, but it rarely works. Someone who is irrationally afraid of something isn't likely to change their minds. You can't reason someone out of something they didn't reason themselves into - or, at the very least, such things only happen once in every hundred tries.

Agreed, Commander Eagle - it can be extremely difficult when someone's "survival instinct" has been triggered.

Particularly with regard to a strongly-held belief in something - such as God - or when they've de-converted from some religion.

[As the saying goes, "There's none so fanatical as a ex-smoker". ]

However, it is a technique used in resolving conflicts in relationships - which, to some extent, is a description of any human interaction.

The "What is it about (my saying/doing) X that makes you feel (angry, etc)?" type of question.

It generally tends to help them take a mental step back and look at their reaction, and - hopefully - its cause.

Kindest regards,

James

 

[suelange]

Sounds like this person was a victim of abuse at the hands of a priest. I give him/her the benefit of the doubt.

 

[aMarshall]

Hatred! huh-yeah
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing
Uh-huh

Sorry couldn't help it.

 

[lrkun]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,909757,00.html

Based on the above article, hatred has some good because it is healthy.

 

[Inferno]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,909757,00.html

Based on the above article, hatred has some good because it is healthy.

This Article goes against basically everything I know to be true as a teacher and brother of quite a few.

A mother kicked in the shin by her four-year-old, for example, should not react with a hypocritical mixture of hidden venom and saccharin: "We don't kick people, do we? Say you are sorry, darling." Instead, she should vent her feelings honestly and shout at the child "or even swat him."

Uh, no she shouldn't. Any form of swatting, slapping, etc. should be avoided. The best thing to do is nearly always to explain to the kid why that was wrong (they're smarter than most people think) and make the kid apologize.

Sorry Irkun, but this Article is a load of crap.

 

[lrkun]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,909757,00.html

Based on the above article, hatred has some good because it is healthy.

This Article goes against basically everything I know to be true as a teacher and brother of quite a few.

A mother kicked in the shin by her four-year-old, for example, should not react with a hypocritical mixture of hidden venom and saccharin: "We don't kick people, do we? Say you are sorry, darling." Instead, she should vent her feelings honestly and shout at the child "or even swat him."

Uh, no she shouldn't. Any form of swatting, slapping, etc. should be avoided. The best thing to do is nearly always to explain to the kid why that was wrong (they're smarter than most people think) and make the kid apologize.

Sorry Irkun, but this Article is a load of crap.

What's your basis?

 

[Andiferous]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,909757,00.html

Based on the above article, hatred has some good because it is healthy.

What's your basis?

Because the article is silly. It speaks of 'venting feelings' but nowhere anywhere does any feeling individual have a solid definition of 'hatred' from which they can clearly identify their 'feelings.' In fact, As Mr. Gras pointed out a while ago, strong emotions can be filtered into different categories but in the end, it is very difficult to say to which category those feelings actually belong. A person doesn't need hatred to vent his or her emotions because there are a number of other less destructive outlets that are probably more acurately directed.

To require hatred of something outside oneself for motivation is nothing more than redirecting blame.

 

[Inferno]

Note that I'm more concerned about the "swatting your child" than anything else.

That, Andi, and because virtually every piece of research that I know of disagrees with the Articles finding.

Durrant, J. E. (2000). Trends in youth crime and well-being since the abolition of corporal punishment in Sweden. Youth & Society, 31(4), 437-455.

Gershoff, E. T. (2002). Corporal punishment by parents and associated child behaviors and experiences: A meta-analytic and theoretical review. Psychological Bulletin, 128, 539-579. (I can only access the abstract of this one!)

Straus, M. A. (2001). Beating the Devil out of Them: Corporal Punishment in American Families And Its Effects on Children, 2nd Edition (2nd ed.). New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction Publishers. (I'd particularly suggest looking at the two headings between the pages 19 and 20.)

All and more can be found here.

Furthermore, I can't really see hatred being something positive, ever. There's this old saying that "it eats you up from the inside"? I think there's a token of truth to that.

 

[Inferno]

Just on a side note, the guy I wrote about is still at it.

* Auzziegob
* CommentTimeMar 18th 2011

Which one of Kylies tits had cancer. I wanna know if she had the puppy put to sleep with keemo or was it chopped off.

I'd like to think that not even in jest would a sane person say that.

 

[Andiferous]

Furthermore, I can't really see hatred being something positive, ever. There's this old saying that "it eats you up from the inside"? I think there's a token of truth to that.

I'd surmise there is more than a token of truth there.

Note that I'm more concerned about the "swatting your child" than anything else.

That, Andi, and because virtually every piece of research that I know of disagrees with the Articles finding.

Yes, as models for children we indirectly teach them socially acceptable behaviour, and open up the hypothetical gamut of responses. I'd say it''s beyond kids though and starts at the role models.

 

[Vanlavak]

Hate is generally frowned upon, especially by me. Your more likely to be convincing if you are kind.

 

[Memeticemetic]

If you absolutely must resurrect a three month dead thread, Vanlavak, make your post one of substance please.