he_who_is_nobody
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Un-ban Rumraket. He was cussing at a troll.
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he_who_is_nobody said:Un-ban Rumraket. He was cussing at a troll.
SpecialFrog said:It's worth noting that while Rumraket was more sweary, Bernhard's discourse is hardly free from rudeness or insults.
Rumraket's last post in that thread was rather ... salty.Gnug215 said:Hmm, I don't think I've seen too many instances of Rumraket breaking the rules.
Anyone got any examples?
hack's ban is a lot less surprising. That had a long time coming.
Dragan Glas said:Greetings,
Rumraket's last post in that thread was rather ... salty.Gnug215 said:Hmm, I don't think I've seen too many instances of Rumraket breaking the rules.
Anyone got any examples?
hack's ban is a lot less surprising. That had a long time coming.
Kindest regards,
James
Prolescum said:Rumraket wasn't banned for their final post but ignoring a string of warnings over that last few months, including a week-long ban and further warnings in-thread afterwards. Are we supposed to continually accept poor behaviour simply because we like and respect the person in all other circumstances? Why do we have rules in the first place? They are in place to allow conversations to progress, not to hinder them.
The last thing I want to do is remove otherwise excellent contributors, but there's a point where I believe we have to defend the principles of the site above our preferences.
Am I wrong?
Master_Ghost_Knight said:If you may allow a suggestion, I think the forum could use a little "forum constitution". People selling vicadin, spam bots and impersonators can still be banned immediately. But other users should be submitted to a vote before banning. This can be divided into the regular user vote and the administrative vote. Users can vote other people to be banned, but even if it passes the user vote, the vote maybe impeached by the administrative body. The administrative body may elect to ban a user, but it must pass the user vote in order for the ban to go into effect. If there is a clear violation of the rules, a user may be suspended while its case is in appreciation, but not without receiving 2 or 3 warnings first. And even if a ban passes the administrative and user vote, the banned user may appeal the ban, and if he or she can show that they did not violate the rules, they can have their accounts reinstated.
The rules of the board can be voted on.
Inferno said:I think the point is this: Both Hackenslash and Rumraket received warnings prior to this incident. I distinctly remember hack had a 1? 2? week ban just a few weeks/months ago, not too long anyway. Apparently, Rumraket had one as well.
That being said, I'm all in favour of short term bans as a "cooling off" period, but perma-bans should only go to serious offenders. Both Hack and Rum are serious and excellent contributors.
That is very true but hack has since left the internet and no longer posts on any rational siteInferno said:Both Hack and Rum are serious and excellent contributors
surreptitious57 said:That is very true but hack has since left the internet and no longer posts on any rational siteInferno said:Both Hack and Rum are serious and excellent contributors
Whether this be temporary or permanent only time will tell but he shall be missed either way
On the plus side though it might mean that he will actually finish the book which he is writing
Gnug215 said:hack's ban is a lot less surprising. That had a long time coming.
Nothing personal, Prolescum, we still love you! :mrgreen:Prolescum said:Well I can see the consensus is against me here, so I'll talk with the rest of the staff and rumraket and report back regarding the main topic.
With regards to a quorum on permabans, we'd need to have a good think about how to apply it fairly and whether we can maintain it adequately given the current and future staff and contributors levels. I'm not against the idea in principle.