Tolerance

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i admire your convictions noth, But things are very different in the US.

The modus operandi of the overwhelming (if not all) christian sects believe that being gay should be criminalized and in some extreme cases, put to death. Yes.. those people do exists in the US and their motives are very clear. theists (especially Christians), are intent on removing our rights. and preventing federal protection, and various anti-discrimination laws from passing. These laws of course are only things to make us equal.. you know.. like equal access to fare pay, job, housing, etc..

So any gay in the church is supporting the Christian cause, which is to deny LGBT rights

and dont get me started on "gay-friendly" churches in the US. They do not support our cause and are in most cases "draggin their feet" in supporting the gay community. they do not help ANY pro-lgbt cause, they do not rally with us, they do not give money to right unjust laws, they do not make their support known..

Regardless of whether or not the church is LGBT friendly, they are working counter the the LGBT cause in America...

and as a result, the gays that are associated with the churches are in fact directly or indirectly supporting the restriction of their human rights.

They ARE turncoats
they CAN NOT be trusted

Jesus, dude that broad brush you're using is sloppin' paint all over the place. The LGBT cause is served quite well when outspoken christian homosexuals take it up. And they do. And they are listened to far more by the religious when they share the faith. I mean, really, do you think it's necessary to be an atheist to be gay? The religious leave out bits and pieces of their holy books as the moral landscape alters constantly, so why should it be any different with homosexuality?

Turncoats? Fuck that. Plenty of advocates of human rights in general have been and are religious and there's no reason to shut them out because we happen to disagree on questions of divinity.

Seems to me you're going down that dangerous road of considering all who don't march lockstep with you on all counts as being your enemy. Stop that. Christians can and will be your ally in the areas in which you agree.