Andiferous
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I'm a moron.
I'm a moron.
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Prolescum said:That is all.
)O( Hytegia )O( said:Prolescum said:That is all.
We agree on everything else.
*Sigh*
This is not the end-all of any opinion.
I am not some hardened religious fundamental that will not budge on opinion or may not think different some day - and quit acting like this is my end-all, problem-free system.
I realize that there are some issues with it, things that no one has seemed to adequately point out that has not been answered with my proposition.
But it must be seen both ways. The current state of it all leaves significant, life-changing errors that often leave everyone fucked. Not the good kind, either. I have seen some of my best friend's lives completely ruined - both women and men - and have left promising futures ahead and been forced to live a life in nowhere.
I'm not a professional. I'm not a psychiatrist. But I'm not an idiot, either.
The problem that no one in this thread is seeing is that you're all forgetting, at some point, a person IS the result of this entire ordeal, if a solid decision is made. I would rather see less children bouncing around in the world and more people going to college, or along with their own futures. Less children born unto people who are incapable of taking care of them, and then given to a system that seems to be inadequate in it's build for the growth of healthy children is much better than the system currently in place. By fucking far.
The situation I have presented is not solely of finances - I have said that many times, over and over again.
It makes everyone think about the situation before, and stating "I can handle this shit" before having a child. Both people.
Both people choose to have sex. Both people have input on the decision from beginning to end.
No. I would not have surgery for a short-time requirement that can be resolved.
It's like asking if you should have your tonsils removed if you don't want tonsillitis
What consequences of the statement?Prolescum said:Yet you've been unwilling to talk about the consequences of your statements as if they don't matter.
What has been said that directly relates to my ideal of a two-party decision system in regards to ANYTHING I've actually implicated? What problems could arise outside of it?Prolescum said:With respect, they have.
I came from Alabama. The general outset idea is that Abortion = bad 100% of the time.Prolescum said:Yes, they took responsibility for their actions. Good, honourable people.
Noted.Prolescum said:I'm not a professional. I'm not a psychiatrist. But I'm not an idiot, either.
The problem that no one in this thread is seeing is that you're all forgetting, at some point, a person IS the result of this entire ordeal, if a solid decision is made. I would rather see less children bouncing around in the world and more people going to college, or along with their own futures. Less children born unto people who are incapable of taking care of them, and then given to a system that seems to be inadequate in it's build for the growth of healthy children is much better than the system currently in place. By fucking far.
*Ignoring the entire point of the reason I hold this mindset*
Can I sign YOU up for the loan on the mansion, then?Prolescum said:Yes it's about you forcing your choice upon others and unwillingness to accept certain factors are beyond your control.
First off:Prolescum said:Agreed but your choices aren't the same. The risks aren't the same. The results aren't the same. There are valid reasons to refuse your order of taking contraceptives. Do you carry on and fuck regardless or do you refuse to give the Hytegia bone?
By asking nicely. And you ignored the initial point of your shrug-off of the statement.Prolescum said:By force
Except now imagine that I require my tonsils back and at full-functionality.Prolescum said:No it isn't. As you've pointed out, tonsils are removed.
So I'm asking you to clarify your position on this specific point:
If you say "no human has the right to financial support", what do you mean?
Do you mean that this right is not granted in any society? (Which I think I have disproved)
Do you mean that this right doesn't exist in the Universal Declaration of HUman Rights and is therefore not a human right?
Do you think that this shouldn't be a right that should be fought for?
You are either blind or a damned liar!)O( Hypocritia )O( said:All anyone has stated is misc. gabbly-gook with little relation to how the system wouldn't, or would, work - and more about how it makes your heart go all achey-breakie.
All you've done in this thread is repeat the refrain "it's not fair" over and over again like a cracked record. How's that for a "brick-wall argument"?)O( Hypocritia )O( said:I have refined my methods.
Ponies are the answer to life's brick-wall arguments.
)o(Hytegia(o) said:What consequences of the statement?
What has been said that directly relates to my ideal of a two-party decision system in regards to ANYTHING I've actually implicated?
What problems could arise outside of it?
All anyone has stated is misc. gabbly-gook with little relation to how the system wouldn't, or would, work - and more about how it makes your heart go all achey-breakie.
I came from Alabama. The general outset idea is that Abortion = bad 100% of the time.
If abortions were a simple, and standard procedure then I would predict that we would have a lot less cases like this - and moreso if both claimants realized "... Wut? I can't pay for this shit. Can you?"
Both sides should be able to be interactive in the process.
The woman can have a say all she wants to, and can end it anytime she wants to, when it comes to her own health and well-being (and future).
The problem that no one in this thread is seeing is that you're all forgetting, at some point, a person IS the result of this entire ordeal, if a solid decision is made.
I would rather see less children bouncing around in the world and more people going to college, or along with their own futures.
Less children born unto people who are incapable of taking care of them, and then given to a system that seems to be inadequate in it's build for the growth of healthy children is much better than the system currently in place. By fucking far.
*Ignoring the entire point of the reason I hold this mindset*
Can I sign YOU up for the loan on the mansion, then?
First off:
Who said I forced them to?
I'm pretty sure Earlier in this thread that I made it clear that I only slept with people I knew, generally, and that I know are good for it.
It's not like I go out to the bar, snag, and shag another woman every night.
The only time that it was on a dime, it was discussed while sitting over a post-awesomesauce waffle breakfast. It was accepted that it was a good idea just to make sure.
The best fun is responsible fun.
By asking nicely. And you ignored the initial point of your shrug-off of the statement.
Prolescum said:No it isn't. As you've pointed out, tonsils are removed.
Except now imagine that I require my tonsils back and at full-functionality.
Apologizing for stomping out stupidity?Prolescum said:I was a bit harsh.
)O( Hytegia )O( said:Apologizing for stomping out stupidity?Prolescum said:I was a bit harsh.
Fuck, Prole - you're losing your edge. Rereading my responses, I would have been more insulted if you DIDN'T stomp my petty antics into the ground.
:lol:
Good. I was beginning to think that this forum was about to get boring. :lol:Prolescum said:That wasn't an apology, only recognising publicly that I was a bit harsh
)O( Hytegia )O( said:*Be's Awesome*
Story said:WHAT DID THOSE WOMEN SAY TO YOU?!!?
Story said:)O( Hytegia )O( said:*Be's Awesome*
Tons of respect for that! It's rare you see threads end like this...
No wait. No thread has ever ended like this in the history of the internet.
WHAT DID THOSE WOMEN SAY TO YOU?!!?