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Shari'ah law makes sense

arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,
hackenslash said:
For the record, that Hume did was not to undermine induction, but to point out its limitations. Induction is iterative, rather than absolute.
Agreed - which is what I was attempting to point out with the Newton-Raphson method.

Kindest regards,

James
 
arg-fallbackName="Master_Ghost_Knight"/>
Just to be clear about the subjective objective thing.

A "subjective truth" is a truth value applied to a subjective statement.

In the statement, coconut and vanilla ice-cream is more tastier than chocolate ice-cream is a subjective statement, which is subjectively true when I state it.
It is subjective because it is implicitly missing a subject to which the statement applies to. It is true if I say it about me, it may not be truth if Hackenslash says it about him. The context, in this case the subject to which it applies to is incomplete.
However if I state that Hackenslash prefers chocolate ice-cream over coconut and vanilla, this would be an objective statement about a subjective experience. He either likes it, or not. The statement would be objectively true (or false, I haven't actually asked Hackenslash), and it would have the same truth value no mater who states it.


Also there seams to be something here that has been grossly overlooked.
Can any one here give me an example of a moral/immoral event where no human beings have intervene on such an event?
 
arg-fallbackName="Mugnuts"/>
Master_Ghost_Knight said:
Also there seams to be something here that has been grossly overlooked.
Can any one here give me an example of a moral/immoral event where no human beings have intervene on such an event?


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:D
 
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Mugnuts said:
Master_Ghost_Knight said:
Also there seams to be something here that has been grossly overlooked.
Can any one here give me an example of a moral/immoral event where no human beings have intervene on such an event?


Mufasa-vs-Scar-the-lion-king-2801551-640-380.jpg


:D

hehe
 
arg-fallbackName="thenexttodie"/>
Breur9991 said:
At least some aspects of it. Take the punishment of stoning for adultery as an example: it serves as a strong deterrence. It is a step taken to preserve the family structure, to ensure the correct upbringing of children through the receipt of all their rights (emotional and financial), it is a step take to prevent the bastardisation of the children of society who may be deprived of having both parents, it is a step taken to prevent the defamation of people involved, it is a step taken to secure the marital relationship from deceit and betrayal, it is a step taken to ensure loyalty, it is a step taken to confine sex to the bedroom and not publicise it, it is a step taken to prevent the occurrence of pregnancies where the father is not obliged to care for the mother and child and the mother may be left to deal with her own provisions, and so on and so forth.

I think it's very important to realise that shari'ah should be taken wholly as opposed to selectively. We have countries where a given crime is awarded the punishment in accordance to shari'ah...but are the requirements for the punishment met in accordance to it too? Is the person leading the trial doing so in the correct, Islamic manner? Are bribes being taken? Are richer people let off the hook? Are rulers living in palaces while the poor are starving? Etc. Etc.
As such, in the idyllic shari'ah society, such a law would prevent many family problems and societal problems (for the man, the woman and the child, also, one particular happening may eventually influence others to follow pursuit). But in a modern day country, is it as straightforward? Added to the complexity may be factors such as porn, nudity and obscenity, as well as lifestyle factors and how easy it generally is to flirt with the opposite sex. As such, imho things would need to be taken step by step - the first of which may be to remove nudity from public view; the last of which would be the prescribing of the hadd law; between these being a number of stages working towards eliminating adultery. For example, the banning of alcohol was not sudden - rather it was a process implemented by divine injunction in steps.

How can you impose such laws on people and then tell them to honor your willfully immoral false prophet? How can something good come from doing that?
 
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thenexttodie said:
How can you impose such laws on people and then tell them to honor your willfully immoral false prophet? How can something good come from doing that?

Hands up if the irony of this post is lost on you.
 
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