Ridiculous U.S. gun laws.

[BoganUSAFFLClerk]

A piece of plastic is literally a machine gun to the ATF why should we listen to these idiots?


Shotguns don't use fixed shotgun shells they can be easily removed.


Handguns are not meant to be used one handed.


Not all shotguns are intended to be fired from the shoulder.



Not all rifles need to be fired from the shoulder or fired with two hands.




Why are potato cannons a 10 year sentence?


Why do any of these characteristics make the gun become something more often used in crime even though statistically not the case?

United States Import Point System for Handguns

How does this effect crime pertaining to Saturday Night Specials when currently imported handguns are more expensive still compared to a Hipoint?

California Assault Weapons Ban

How does this law have an aim to reduce gun crime?

 

[BoganUSAFFLClerk]

ATF firearms category classification NFA items and NON NFA items

Even the ATF doesn't know what a handgun is. How does this reduce crime?

California approved handgun roster.

Single shot handguns are assault weapons because ya know people use single shots to assail a position?

Assembly Bill No. 2847

What happens when: a brass catch is used? microstamp is defaced? brass is picked up? revolver is used and not reloaded? microstamp is deformed upon casing being stepped on? steel cases are used?

California cost transferring a firearm.


California transferring ammunition.

Ah so basically 20 dollars for your random gun owner per transaction in order to purchase ammunition. Prior to Corona 1 box of 50 rounds 9mm costs 10 dollars. During or Post Corona so far it is anywhere from 20 - 38 dollars a box of 50 9mm. Very hefty fee and no implementation against the law non abiding.

 

[BoganUSAFFLClerk]

@Sparhafoc @21st Demon Lord @Dragan Glas @he_who_is_nobody @Greg the Grouper @Led Zeppelin @*SD*

Come at me bros.

 

[Sparhafoc]

@Sparhafoc @21st Demon Lord @Dragan Glas @he_who_is_nobody @Greg the Grouper @Led Zeppelin @*SD*

Come at me bros.

Who booked the party clown? C'mon - own up!

 

[Deleted member 619]

 

[Greg the Grouper]

Tell you what. That's quite a few people you've mentioned. I'll let you hash it out with them, and I guess if you wanna talk about this forum in general with me, I'm game. Cool?

 

[Sparhafoc]

Tell you what. That's quite a few people you've mentioned.

I think there's still 2 people left he doesn't want to fight yet.

 

[Deleted member 619]

Yes, but the one other than himself hasn't been on the forum in weeks.

 

[Sparhafoc]

A walking advert of why ground apes aren't really to be trusted with guns. You can barely trust some of them with spoons.

 

[Deleted member 42253]

@BoganUSAFFLClerk Yes, US gun laws are ridiculous and completly inconsistent.
The citizens of the US are the most irresponsible people in the western world and should not have access to weapons.

 

[*SD*]

Lol, well the reason I haven't been getting involved, even though this is a topic that very much interests me is it's centered around US laws, obviously since that's the title. Everything in the US, especially the gun laws are totally different to what they are here. I could start a thread about ridiculous UK gun laws, but I don't think many people would be super interested in it.

I am following the thread, and the other similar in nature threads. And sort of overdosing on popcorn

 

[*SD*]

The citizens of the US are the most irresponsible people in the western world and should not have access to weapons.

You don't like guns, so nobody should be allowed to have them because you don't like them. We all get this from the thread you started. You don't need to keep repeating it.

"I don't like guns so people shouldn't be allowed to recreationally shoot tin cans and paper targets in safe environments and in a responsible manner, cos I don't like guns. Did I mention I don't like guns?"

Yes, you did.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Come at me bros.

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

I agree that the rules and regulations surrounding "assault weapons" - from the name to the various attachments - are arbitrary, and therefore, silly.

The only objections I have to the attachments on the "modern sporting rifle", aka the AR, are a bayonet mount, and a grenade launcher.

I see no need for either in a civilian environment.

Meant to add, I disagree with bump stocks.

Anything that allows you to fire faster than you can do so by pulling the trigger is a step towards full automatic. (I realise you can fire machine guns at ranges but that's different from owning and/or converting a semi- to full auto.)

This is similar to distinguishing between someone typing and a DDoS attack.

Kindest regards,

James

 

[Deleted member 42253]

You don't like guns, so nobody should be allowed to have them because you don't like them. We all get this from the thread you started. You don't need to keep repeating it.

"I don't like guns so people shouldn't be allowed to recreationally shoot tin cans and paper targets in safe environments and in a responsible manner, cos I don't like guns. Did I mention I don't like guns?"

Yes, you did.

Oh no, I love guns. They are macabre pieces of engineering culminating human genius and insanity in brutal functionality. They are fascinating.
Doesnt mean I should have a gun.

Also, you kinda missed the "irresponsible" part. Now, in a perfect world, full of responsible adults, I would have no problem with everyone having access to guns, explosives, poison and even plutonium. But .. thats not the world we live in.
Got almost killed 3 times today, cause people cant drive for shit ...

@Dragan Glas I do not see any _need_ for owning a gun in a civilian enviroment at all.
Police, military, hunters ... maybe even sportsmen, sure, but not civilians.

 

[*SD*]

Also, you kinda missed the "irresponsible" part. Now, in a perfect world, full of responsible adults, I would have no problem with everyone having access to guns, explosives, poison and even plutonium. But .. thats not the world we live in.

Nope, didn't miss anything. Apply it to knives, baseball bats, cricket bats, rocks, elastic bands, matches, lighters, coconuts, banana skins and video games. Let's ban the fucking lot because in the wrong hands.....
Oh, wait, no let's not do that because it's insanely stupid.

I do not see any _need_ for owning a gun in a civilian enviroment at all.
Police, military, hunters ... maybe even sportsmen, sure, but not civilians.

Except for all those other reasons mentioned in your thread to which you conceded every single one whilst simultaneously trying to pretend your original point wasn't utterly wrong and falsified.

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

@Dragan Glas I do not see any _need_ for owning a gun in a civilian enviroment at all.
Police, military, hunters ... maybe even sportsmen, sure, but not civilians.

I tend to agree that in a civilized society there wouldn't be such a need, however, we're talking about America, where it's a right in their constitution, combined with the existing levels of violence In their society - partly due to the availability of firearms.

Kindest regards,

James

 

[*SD*]

I do not see any _need_ for owning a gun in a civilian enviroment at all.
Police, military, hunters ... maybe even sportsmen, sure, but not civilians.

By the way, it's clearly escaped your narrow attention span that all of the above are also civilians. You might as well have said "Police, Military, Hunters... maybe even sportsmen, sure, but not HUMANS"

 

[*SD*]

I tend to agree that in a civilized society there wouldn't be such a need

So, not farmers, not target shooters, not pest controllers, not clay pigeon shooters then...

Do you consider any of the above to be uncivilised?

 

[Sparhafoc]

but I don't think many people would be super interested in it.

I expect that's the prevailing sentiment with this topic too.

It's just not that interesting for most people around the world - sportspeople, collectors etc., being the distinction, and as such you could consider it a sub-culture in most nations around the world, not the mainstream, and certainly not fetishised.