You do know that there are multiple different English translations of the Bible, right?thenexttodie said:SpecialFrog said:So which Bible translation do you prefer?
English.
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You do know that there are multiple different English translations of the Bible, right?thenexttodie said:SpecialFrog said:So which Bible translation do you prefer?
English.
Visaki said:You do know that there are multiple different English translations of the Bible, right?
thenexttodie said:The idea that the Torah was originaly written by several different authors becomes less plausible one you realize there is no real reason to suppose that it could not have been written during the lifespan of a single individual.
SpecialFrog said:Nonsense. The divergent styles and language are enough to make the "multiple authors" hypothesis probable.
So Genesis 1 and 2 are different genres?thenexttodie said:No. The most simple explanation for variances of style and language would be then become subject matter and genre. Additional evidence would be required to introduce a more complex explanation.
SpecialFrog said:So which Bible translation do you prefer?
Aren't we amusing.thenexttodie said:English.
SpecialFrog said:..Because all of them employ textual criticism as a means of creating a single text from multiple inconsistent sources.
wrong on both counts.thenexttodie said:First of all, many of these texts would have hardly been considered "ancient" at the time they were made part of the canon. Secondly, how is having multiple sources a bad thing? Thirdly the methods used would have been different from what most people today would consider a "textual analysis"
thenexttodie said:The idea that the Torah was originaly written by several different authors becomes less plausible one you realize there is no real reason to suppose that it could not have been written during the lifespan of a single individual.
SpecialFrog said:Nonsense. The divergent styles and language are enough to make the "multiple authors" hypothesis probable.
thenexttodie said:No. The most simple explanation for variances of style and language would be then become subject matter and genre. Additional evidence would be required to introduce a more complex explanation.
SpecialFrog said:So Genesis 1 and 2 are different genres?
SpecialFrog said:..Because all of them employ textual criticism as a means of creating a single text from multiple inconsistent sources.
thenexttodie said:First of all, many of these texts would have hardly been considered "ancient" at the time they were made part of the canon. Secondly, how is having multiple sources a bad thing? Thirdly the methods used would have been different from what most people today would consider a "textual analysis"
SpecialFrog said:
[url=http://www.theleagueofreason.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=169704#p169704 said:he_who_is_nobody[/url]"]tuxbox said:Has the debate already taken place? According to the video, the debate was suppose to take place in the fall of this year. We are now closing in on winter.
Bart Ehrman vs. Robert Price & Richard Carrier vs. Justin Bass: The Debates Are On! (Get Your Tickets Now)
tuxbox said:It sucks that someone has to pay to see the video. I'm not willing to pay to see it just yet, but I would love to see the debate.
he_who_is_nobody said:
WarK said:he_who_is_nobody said:
I read through some of it and I wonder why is Ehrman considered the man to beat on this topic. Reading Carrier makes Ehrman look like someone closer to WLC than a proper academic. As WLC he admitted that no evidence would change his mind.
Is Ehrman the most credible of the people saying Jesus really existed? If so, it seems like they're all more theologians than historians.
tuxbox said:It sucks that someone has to pay to see the video. I'm not willing to pay to see it just yet, but I would love to see the debate.
thenexttodie said:tuxbox said:It sucks that someone has to pay to see the video. I'm not willing to pay to see it just yet, but I would love to see the debate.
I wouldn't waste my time. Ehrman almost always loses every debate he's in. He makes poor arguments.
he_who_is_nobody said:WarK said:I read through some of it and I wonder why is Ehrman considered the man to beat on this topic. Reading Carrier makes Ehrman look like someone closer to WLC than a proper academic. As WLC he admitted that no evidence would change his mind.
To your second point; I totally agree that Ehrman stance on evidence and how it should be seen is asinine and closer to the stereotype of what most reality deniers actually think the academic world looks like. It is sad to hear someone so popular and credentialed actually state that position and think it is a proper position to hold and not the logical fallacy that it is. It seems to go a long way in explaining why he thinks it is beneath him to address Carrier's peer-reviewed research in the actual peer-review arena. That arena is where the real debate happens in academia, and the longer Carrier's research goes unchallenged, the longer it appears that his arguments are sound.