SpecialFrog
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The following two propositions could both be true:thenexttodie said:If we both agree with the proposition "most claims that God has spoken to someone are false" and that proposition is sufficient to make my argument then I have no need to push for a stronger proposition with which you will not agree anyway.
You seem to be suggesting a proposition which you yourself don't even agree with.
SPECIALFROG. Do you believe that God or many Gods could exist? If so, then I ask; what evidence do you have to support this belief? If the answer is No, then I have to wonder why is it your position is so inconsistent.
If the answer is No, then your "fortion" argument does not accurately represent your views.
1) most claims that God has spoken to someone are false (e.g. more than 50% of these claims are false)
2) all claims that God has spoken to someone are false (e.g. 100% of these claims are false)
You will of course agree that 100% is more than 50%.
In fact, I think both of those propositions are probably true. But we both agree with proposition 1), which is the point of an a fortiori argument. Any argument that is true if 1) is true is also true if 2) is true because 2) implies 1).
Are you really struggling with this basic logic or are you just trying to avoid discussing evidence?
As for your second pointless question, I don't know what could exist. However, I know of no reason to believe that any gods actually do exist. I also know of know reason to consider the god you believe in more probable than any other god or gods.
Also, the current text of the Torah dates to around 600BCE or later. While some bits are certainly older there is no good reason to think this bit is older than myths around Hermes (who is actually depicted in that image).