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PZ Myers and the Definition of Trolling

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mick1le2pick

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Here are some other videos on PZ he made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmMXiqbD9Dc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gGzn0jSsdA

I'm really surprised they haven't had a more major fallout.
 
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I'm starting my own atheist movement "A pi". Don't know what it is about yet but who wants to join me?
 
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Duvelthehobbit666 said:
I'm starting my own atheist movement "A pi". Don't know what it is about yet but who wants to join me?
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Blasphemer, everyone knows that pi is wrong, it should be "A tau"!
 
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Master_Ghost_Knight said:
Duvelthehobbit666 said:
I'm starting my own atheist movement "A pi". Don't know what it is about yet but who wants to join me?
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Blasphemer, everyone knows that pi is wrong, it should be "A tau"!
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Damn I spelled it wrong, should be pie.
 
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Confirming pie is relevant to my interests.

As long as it has some decent chunks of animal flesh in it. Vegetarian and/or fruit-based pies are heresy and will result in WAR!
 
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I haven't yet seen C0nc0rdance's video on the subject, but I was already less than impressed with his two previous videos on PZ, so I doubt this will be any different.
I don't know why, but C0nc0rdance seems to dislike PZ intently. Which leads to all sorts of embarrassing mis-quotes and misunderstandings... stemming from C0nc0rdance.

PZ responded to the video and I want to highlight a few things:
Lilandra also disagrees with C0nc0rdance... but just as well with PZ. The Thunderf00t issue was handled incorrectly, but C0nc0rdance is wrong. It's as simple as that. There's another gem from her: Some people actively seek to get banned on Pharyngula. I think it's the biggest atheist blog, so that might be it? No idea. However, PZ doesn't even ban that many people, so I'm not sure why people are complaining. Heck, even we ban about as many people and we don't have anywhere near as many visitors.

I'll leave it at that.
 
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Inferno said:
I don't know why, but C0nc0rdance seems to dislike PZ intently. Which leads to all sorts of embarrassing mis-quotes and misunderstandings... stemming from C0nc0rdance.
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C0nc0rdance and Thunderf00t are good friends in meatspace...
 
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Gunboat Diplomat said:
C0nc0rdance and Thunderf00t are good friends in meatspace...
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Still no reason to dislike PZ. Actually, that's the problem with C0nc0rdance then: He lets personal stuff get in the way of his skepticism.
 
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Inferno said:
Gunboat Diplomat said:
C0nc0rdance and Thunderf00t are good friends in meatspace...
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Still no reason to dislike PZ. Actually, that's the problem with C0nc0rdance then: He lets personal stuff get in the way of his skepticism.
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Or maybe C0nc0rdance and Thunderf00t are friends, partly because they think in a similar way and thus agree rather than just assuming that their friendship is why they agree.
 
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I actaully agree with them both, not because I like any of them but because they have presented a good justification for their position.
 
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Master_Ghost_Knight said:
I actaully agree with them both, not because I like any of them but because they have presented a good justification for their position.
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Both... who? PZ and C0nc0rdance both?
 
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Thunderf00t gets hate because he acts like a petulant child, who seemingly cares more about being right than being honest. He constantly uses the worst logic in order to justify ridiculous positions (see any of his videos on Islam circa 2010 for more details).
 
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australopithecus said:
Thunderf00t get's hate because he acts like a petulant child, who seemingly cares more about being right than being honest. He constantly uses the worst logic in order to justify ridiculous positions (see any of his videos on Islam circa 2010 for more details).
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Agreed. Sadly, desperately sadly, Thunderf00t is not objective any more. I liked his videos before the great internet drama of DawaFilms, but TF just became ridiculous after that.
I'm sorry to say both TF and C0nc0rdance are wrong on this particular issue. C0nc0rdance has made some unsubstantiated claims in his videos regarding PZ, some misunderstandings and blatant quote-mines, as well as introduced a view (blogs corrupt, to put it simply) that's simply wrong. That's a shame from C0nc0rdance, he's one of my favourite people on YT.
 
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Inferno said:
australopithecus said:
Thunderf00t get's hate because he acts like a petulant child, who seemingly cares more about being right than being honest. He constantly uses the worst logic in order to justify ridiculous positions (see any of his videos on Islam circa 2010 for more details).
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Agreed. Sadly, desperately sadly, Thunderf00t is not objective any more. I liked his videos before the great internet drama of DawaFilms, but TF just became ridiculous after that.
I'm sorry to say both TF and C0nc0rdance are wrong on this particular issue. C0nc0rdance has made some unsubstantiated claims in his videos regarding PZ, some misunderstandings and blatant quote-mines, as well as introduced a view (blogs corrupt, to put it simply) that's simply wrong. That's a shame from C0nc0rdance, he's one of my favourite people on YT.
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I've only recently started watching C0nc0rdance, however I've watched most of his videos and all on PZ and Thunderf00y and I'm new to this blogs to corrupt idea.
 
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PZ Myers and the Principle of Free Expression

C0nc0rdance, makes several good points in this video. However, just because YouTube technically owns the channel does not mean the user has to put up with hateful comments from internet trolls. Blocking comments and ratings is not denying anyone's write to free speech. If someone disagrees with the content of a video, they can always counter with a video of their own. I mostly watch music videos on YT and while searching for a cover of “The Unforgiven” from Metallica, I came across one from a rather homely kid performing both the clean and distorted guitar parts of the song. Comments and ratings had both been disabled and she had an annotation which went a little something like this, “I disabled comments because of all the death threats and people telling me to kill myself”. Like it or not, evil people are on the net and people have a right not to be bullied.
 
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