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Man stoned to death in the US

Sparky

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Good to see some people still follow the Old Testament faithfully :facepalm:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/4788307/Man-stoned-to-death-in-US
 

Duvelthehobbit666

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It always seems that the model citizens are the ones who do some of the more crazy crimes. Quite interesting. But this is just terrible. The murderer should never be let out of jail. Never see sunlight again.
 

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Someone bugger Spork to develop a proper emote for total depressing thoughts.
 

lrkun

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Sparky said:
Good to see some people still follow the Old Testament faithfully :facepalm:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/4788307/Man-stoned-to-death-in-US

@.@ They ought to follow the new testament and pray in secret while doing good deeds in secret too.
 

scorpion9

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)O( Hytegia )O( said:
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Someone bugger Spork to develop a proper emote for total depressing thoughts.


i made a new emoticon for expressing your depression and disappointment :D

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Giliell

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Duvelthehobbit666 said:
It always seems that the model citizens are the ones who do some of the more crazy crimes. Quite interesting. But this is just terrible. The murderer should never be let out of jail. Never see sunlight again.
Sorry to correct you, but the model citizen was the victim:
Thomas (murderer) had no comment as he was led out of the Delaware County Courthouse on Friday. Seidman (victim) was a longtime worker in the laundry department at Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital, where he was ''very popular,'' Kortan said.

"As far as we are concerned, he was a model citizen,'' Kortan said.
 

Duvelthehobbit666

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Giliell said:
Duvelthehobbit666 said:
It always seems that the model citizens are the ones who do some of the more crazy crimes. Quite interesting. But this is just terrible. The murderer should never be let out of jail. Never see sunlight again.
Sorry to correct you, but the model citizen was the victim:
Thomas (murderer) had no comment as he was led out of the Delaware County Courthouse on Friday. Seidman (victim) was a longtime worker in the laundry department at Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital, where he was ''very popular,'' Kortan said.

"As far as we are concerned, he was a model citizen,'' Kortan said.
Damn, maybe I should read a bit better next time. However the article does not imply anything wrong with Thomas. He was very religious but did not seem to have anything wrong with him looking at the article. So he would seem to be a normal functioning person so my argument still holds.
 

televator

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Dangerous books these holly texts are...tell people that 'till you're blue in the face...see how well they listen.
 

Dragan Glas

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Greetings,
Police said Thomas, who is the executor and sole beneficiary of Seidman's will, returned to the apartment and pretended that he had just discovered Seidman's body.
I thought that that was rather important, instead of the stated reason for the murder...

Kindest regards,

James
 

Sparky

Member
Dragan Glas said:
Greetings,
Police said Thomas, who is the executor and sole beneficiary of Seidman's will, returned to the apartment and pretended that he had just discovered Seidman's body.
I thought that that was rather important, instead of the stated reason for the murder...

Kindest regards,

James
True. He may be lying through his teeth but even if this is the case I still find it concerning that he feels that he can use the Bible as an excuse.
 

Unwardil

Member
Honestly, the cynic in me suspects this to be an elaborate insanity plea attempt. The murderer was named as the executor in the guy's will and he pretends that he discovers him 10 days later. Sorry, sounds like good old fashioned premeditated greedy to me. I don't think there's a spec of religious motivation whatsoever.
 

Sparky

Member
Unwardil said:
Honestly, the cynic in me suspects this to be an elaborate insanity plea attempt. The murderer was named as the executor in the guy's will and he pretends that he discovers him 10 days later. Sorry, sounds like good old fashioned premeditated greedy to me. I don't think there's a spec of religious motivation whatsoever.
You make a good point about the insanity plea. In fact when I think about it he may have premeditated the whole thing so that he would have a way to get off on insanity if he was caught. It did cross my mind upon reading it that he may well have just been looking to get his hands on the victim's possessions and money and with reflection I too think that he probably was doing so.

On a slightly off topic point I find it unusual that only when someone does something bad and says that God or Satan told them to do it that they are deemed insane. If someone does something good and tells them that it was God that told them to do it then quite often praise is had all around and everyone thanks God for being so awesome. :?
 

Tynk

New Member
While the insanity plea may be very popular on television and in movies, it is very rare in real life. If the insanity defense is used and the defendant happens to be found not guilty by reason of insanity, they are not free to leave. They will likely be committed to a secure psychiatric facility indefinitely for heinous crimes such as this and would have less control over their own assets then if they had just plead guilty.

Legal insanity is a very hard case to prove and if it is proven, it will be the most extreme cases where the likely hood of a repeat offense is believe to be very likely. He may have planed such a defense, but the chance of success is very small.


**I am no where near a law expert, just addicted to learning interesting things so I could be way off base, but this is what my reading has brought me to expect.
 

Giliell

Active Member
Regarding the fact that the victim worked in the laundry department of a hospital, I doubt that there was a lot of money to inherit.
 

Dragan Glas

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Greetings,

He may not always have worked there - and people have killed for less.

I think it doesn't make sense that a 70 year-old man would be likely to make "inappropriate" sexual advances to a 28 year-old man.

The fact that the murderer was the executor of the victim's estate would mean that he'd have to have some idea of what the old man was worth.

Kindest regards,

James
 

Tynk

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Dragan Glas said:
The fact that the murderer was the executor of the victim's estate would mean that he'd have to have some idea of what the old man was worth.

Not necessarily, I am the executor for my parents estate and I have no idea what they are worth, an executor is only there to follow the instructions as determined by the will. It does not require any prior information as to what instructions are in the will.
 
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