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"Let the states decide!"

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arg-fallbackName="kenandkids"/>
ImprobableJoe said:
Arthur is consistently wrong, dishonest, and backs positions that are ethically reprehensible. Plus, he's convinced himself that I'm guilty of everything he is guilty of... no surprise there So I stuck him on ignore, and I don't respond to his comments even when you guys make the mistake of quoting him. I'm happier not to have his poison on my screen, threads don't get derailed, and the mods have less work to do.


I've thought about that too. But there are times when I nearly despair of being able to, or having the energy to, continue on working and fighting for sanity and humanity. It helps me to see tripe and hogwash and despicable opinions held by the people on the [wrong], it reminds me that the very worst possible results will be realised unless the good people keep fighting.
 
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kenandkids said:
I've thought about that too. But there are times when I nearly despair of being able to, or having the energy to, continue on working and fighting for sanity and humanity. It helps me to see tripe and hogwash and despicable opinions held by the people on the [wrong], it reminds me that the very worst possible results will be realised unless the good people keep fighting.
... except that it riles you up so much that you also drive off the people who generally agree with you. You're doing it wrong.
 
arg-fallbackName="Andiferous"/>
If a person really does tend to rile you up, ignore is a great choice. But Arthur isn't consistently wrong by any account. He and I have been consistently debating topics within the political spectrum for a very long time, now. If a person can't win an argument without using insults, then the argument is never truly worthwhile.

If you look at it this way, his vantage point is a fantastic sounding board and a great way to hone one's own ideas. I look forward to it. :)
 
arg-fallbackName="impiku"/>
I guess the best "intellectual" tactic to guard yourself from getting completely pwned is ignoring. What an honest and an honorable thing to do indeed.
 
arg-fallbackName="televator"/>
impiku said:
I guess the best "intellectual" tactic to guard yourself from getting completely pwned is ignoring. What an honest and an honorable thing to do indeed.

You probably haven't been here long enough to know, but many threads have been derailed by these skirmishes consisting of economics and politics. Sometimes the derailments get derailed into peripheral arguments that could go on endlessly. It's been to the point where I'm annoyed by it myself. I can only imagine how other people roll their eyes at it.

That's my reason.
 
arg-fallbackName="australopithecus"/>
impiku said:
I guess the best "intellectual" tactic to guard yourself from getting completely pwned is ignoring. What an honest and an honorable thing to do indeed.

Point: missed. If someone consistently annoys you to the extent that you derail every thread you're in with petty fighting then the best course is to ignore them. Either that or its banhammer time.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dean"/>
australopithecus said:
impiku said:
I guess the best "intellectual" tactic to guard yourself from getting completely pwned is ignoring. What an honest and an honorable thing to do indeed.

Point: missed. If someone consistently annoys you to the extent that you derail every thread you're in with petty fighting then the best course is to ignore them. Either that or its banhammer time.
Hehehe....yep.

This topic is actually quite a good example of why I tend to shy away from these sorts of discussions. In my experience (elsewhere on the internet), topics related to political discourse, when discussed at length, practically always lead to ad homenim tirades. Not really surprising, I guess. I'm just not surprised anymore when (when I engage in political discourse) somebody insults me, considering the tremendous fervency that some political views are held with. Still, hardly productive. :|
 
arg-fallbackName="impiku"/>
australopithecus said:
impiku said:
I guess the best "intellectual" tactic to guard yourself from getting completely pwned is ignoring. What an honest and an honorable thing to do indeed.

Point: missed. If someone consistently annoys you to the extent that you derail every thread you're in with petty fighting then the best course is to ignore them. Either that or its banhammer time.

It only shows that your level of patience is manifesting. The "ignore" feature is often abused to silence reasonable arguments. "Annoyance" is often an excuse.
Dean said:
This topic is actually quite a good example of why I tend to shy away from these sorts of discussions. In my experience (elsewhere on the internet), topics related to political discourse, when discussed at length, practically always lead to ad homenim tirades. Not really surprising, I guess. I'm just not surprised anymore when (when I engage in political discourse) somebody insults me, considering the tremendous fervency that some political views are held with. Still, hardly productive. :|

I usually don't shy away even if the debate is hostile, you can still grow from it. But when a person can't distinguish an ad hominem from a simple insult and try to correct you when he is in fact incorrect, you know it is not worth your time, not a very productive convo.
 
arg-fallbackName="ArthurWilborn"/>
I know I can be a little too tenacious on my point sometimes; so I apologize to anyone who's been really annoyed by it.

I wouldn't mind people ignoring me (I have one or two people on ignore myself) if they didn't insist on openly insulting me while ignoring me.
 
arg-fallbackName="Memeticemetic"/>
That'll do. Take a rest and argue politics another day. And in another thread. Since this one is now locked.
 
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