Is there any NON-RELIGIOUS reason to be a homophobe?

[KyoraMishiso]

Because I'd love to hear them.

 

[blackmetaljesus]

One reason could be that you don't like them.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

I guess there sort of are non-religious justifications from anti-homosexual bigotry, but they aren't any more well-reasoned than the religious justifications. Hating other people for their private behavior and sexual preferences is pretty much always stupid.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

One reason could be that you don't like them.

That's sort of stupid, even after you define "them."

 

[blackmetaljesus]

That's sort of stupid, even after you define "them."

By "them" I meant homosexuals.

Anyway, it's no more stupid than hating any other group of people. There are certainly aspects of their culture that are very annoying.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Anyway, it's no more stupid than hating any other group of people. There are certainly aspects of their culture that are very annoying.

So you admit to the stupidity... I guess as long as you accept your faults, we should forgive them? Anyhoo, your point was stupid because it was circular: people should be bigots because the dislike people. You couldn't be any less enlightening on the subject if you worked at it. Saying that you hate homosexuals because you are annoyed by homosexuals doesn't tell anyone anything other than that you are a person who most folks wouldn't invite over for dinner.

 

[blackmetaljesus]

You sure are hostile. What are you afraid of? That some random guy on the internet doesn't like some group that you probobly don't belong to? I haven't claimed to hold any particular view. She asked what is a reason for people to be homophobes besides being religious, and simple dislike is a legitimate reason.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

You sure are hostile. What are you afraid of? That some random guy on the internet doesn't like some group that you probobly don't belong to? I haven't claimed to hold any particular view. She asked what is a reason for people to be homophobes besides being religious, and simple dislike is a legitimate reason.

When you say something stupid, do you always make yourself feel better by pretending that your critics are afraid of you. You gave a stupid reason. It might not be YOUR reason, but it is still stupid. if you can't understand my explanation of how it was a circular reasoning fallacy, then YOU are stupid as well, and we can stop conversing until you gain 30-40 IQ points.

 

[blackmetaljesus]

Whether it was circular reasoning or not is irrellevent. She asked for reasons without any stipulations on what kind of reasons she wanted. Face it dude, you are wrong, and trying to be a jerk to hide that fact isn't going to work because everyone on this forum (except you apparently) is testing at genius levels.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Whether it was circular reasoning or not is irrellevent. She asked for reasons without any stipulations on what kind of reasons she wanted. Face it dude, you are wrong, and trying to be a jerk to hide that fact isn't going to work because everyone on this forum (except you apparently) is testing at genius levels.

So you gave a stupid reason, and you are going to argue your own stupidity until he cows come home, while aiming insults at your betters. Good to know... I can always count on some entertainment from a clown/troll like you.

 

[blackmetaljesus]

You know, it's not beating you in the argument so thoroughly that you resort to name calling that is the best part of all this, it is proving how much better I am than you that is so sweet.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

You know, it's not beating you in the argument so thoroughly that you resort to name calling that is the best part of all this, it is proving how much better I am than you that is so sweet.

Except that you didn't prove anything, and you didn't even attempt to. You brushed off the criticism, and said "so what?"

You were wrong, and I don't expect you to admit it. In fact, claiming success instead of showing why I was wrong is exactly how little I expect from you.

Keep posting though... I have a few hours before bed, and little to do besides parry back and forth with you. It would be interesting if you would at least ATTEMPT to defend your circular reasoning with something besides "yes, Joe, you are right but it is irrelevant."

 

[TheJilvin]

"You know, it's not beating you in the argument so thoroughly that you resort to name calling that is the best part of all this"

Oh boo hoo he called you names that you deserved! Oh no!

Says the dipshit that proposes in a different thread "an Islamoid who kills an infidel is superior to a friendly atheist because he is evil. In fact, all evil deserves respect."

I hope that a pedophile breaks into your house, masturbates on your face against your will throws feces all over your walls, and burns your house down so that you can show how much you "respect" his "superiority" over those who are moral.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

"You know, it's not beating you in the argument so thoroughly that you resort to name calling that is the best part of all this"

Oh boo hoo he called you names that you deserved! Oh no!

Says the dipshit that proposes in a different thread "an Islamoid who kills an infidel is superior to a friendly atheist because he is evil. In fact, all evil deserves respect."

I hope that a pedophile breaks into your house, masturbates on your face against your will throws feces all over your walls, and burns your house down so that you can show how much you "respect" his "superiority" over those who are moral.

Now now... you shouldn't stoop to his level, and return his violent emotional outbursts in kind. We should instead hope that he finds peace and serenity, and the sort of psychiatric aid that he so clearly needs.

 

[TheJilvin]

Sorry, I wouldn't be happy if that happened.

I'd just be indifferent.

 

[blackmetaljesus]

You are obviously jealous of my power!

 

[ImprobableJoe]

Sorry, I wouldn't be happy if that happened.

I'd just be indifferent.

I don't know... I might even be very slightly saddened. Most of us have at least a little potential, and we could hope that the poor boy could grow out of, or be treated of, his psychological damage.

 

[blackmetaljesus]

Based on the psuedo-psychological mumbo jumbo you keep spouting, I'm assuming you are in your early to mid 20s and picked it up from watching Law and Order SVU or something. I'm 39; much older than you. You are the one who is living in a childish fantasy!

 

[ImprobableJoe]

I'm 39.

That's pretty sad. You come off as an angry and ill-adjusted 14 year old. If you really are 39, you are a few years older than I am, but about 25 years behind me in maturity. I'm very sorry for whatever happened to you to make you what you are, but you need to stop taking it out on the rest of us.

 

[Ozymandyus]

Seriously, why are you letting this troll rile you up? He's just another boring contrarian that you can find anywhere on the internets.

Anyway, back on Topic:
Some people claim that they have a natural homophobia - it may be programmed in by religion and such, but its hard to tell. I certainly find some things gross, and honestly anal sex of any sort is one of them. Anyway, its conceivable that there may be a genetic predisposition towards being repulsed by the same sex sexually. It certainly isn't evolutionarily advantageous to want to use all your sexual energy on members of your same sex.

You may be homophobic if you had some kind of experience that made you that way... Certainly seems plausible that a traumatic experience associated with homosexuality might cause you to become a homophobe.

Afraid that You might have homosexual tendencies.... this is a popular one. Some men who may have small attraction to other men overcompensate by acting like they are completely grossed out/hateful towards. If it were completely acceptable to be homosexual then this might not be a possibility, so could still be blamed on religion.

I'm sure there are other ones. Just trying to honestly answer the question - I personally have no homophobia.