Is evolution a fact?

[Rumraket]

Evolution is not a fact. It's simply a naturalistic worldview.

Evolution is a fact, it is one of the best supported facts in all of science.

Is this how we are to argue? You say one thing and we just say the opposite?

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

Regarding the speciation of butterflies, this just in...

DNA suggests that the diversity of European butterflies could be seriously underestimated

One of the goals of the project was to discover whether there are unknown species still to be discovered. The scientists have compared the DNA sequences obtained in this work with other sequences of European butterflies and have seen that 28% of the studied species have DNA sequences of very divergent lineages, which might belong to still undiscovered species.

Kindest regards,

James

 

[SpecialFrog]

Therefore special frog. Check your presuppositions. Let me see if you can be honest......

Once again, you cant help projecting.

Also, your posts are making less and less sense.

In science, a "fact" is a repeatable careful observation or measurement (by experimentation or other means), also called empirical evidence. Facts are central to building scientific theories.

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation. As with most (if not all) forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and aim for predictive power and explanatory capability.

That is the domain science works in. "Verified by science" just means it is a fact or theory in the scientific sense.

If you want to keep pretending that this is somehow equivalent to your faith in a bronze age sky god you are being dishonest. If you think you can know anything about the real world with 100% certainty your are fooling yourself.

If you want to talk about evidence I am happy to keep going. If you want to keep spewing nonsense about what presuppositions you want me to have, I may just keep posting the Humpty Dumpty picture.

If you want to tell me what presuppositions you think I have that may be different.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Well, lucky for you, I hyperlinked where my questions appear in the other thread. See the color change in what is quoted above? That means there is a hyperlink you are able to click on. Furthermore, I do not know sin.

I answered the question. And yes, you know sin, you just pretend it doesn't exist.

Well, I am not seeing where you answered all my questions. Perhaps you could hyperlink them to me.

In addition, I am not pretending anything. I do not know sin. Furthermore, how would you know if I am pretending or not? Do you know my mind better than I do?

 

[Mr_Wilford]

He's just spewing nonsense at this point. He has no case and has been caught misrepresenting scientific models and data and lying so many times that he can't argue evidence at this point. So accusing SpecialFrog of presuppositions and circular reasoning is all he has, even though anyone with an ounce of common sense will read these last few pages and see that SpecialFrog isn't using circular reasoning at all and Bernhard is just making shit up again.

Someone in the youtube comments of his AA debate said it best: Bernhard's main problem is he strings together incoherent arguments that only make sense to him

 

[Visaki]

I answered the question. And yes, you know sin, you just pretend it doesn't exist.

You, Rhed, know that there is no God, you just pretend that he does exist that you can go on doing unmoral things.

See? That one works both ways. The difference between us is I'm honest, and you are not.

 

[Rhed]

I answered the question. And yes, you know sin, you just pretend it doesn't exist.

You, Rhed, know that there is no God, you just pretend that he does exist that you can go on doing unmoral things.

See? That one works both ways. The difference between us is I'm honest, and you are not.

I know there is a God. It's the most logical and rational explanation about everything. And you are sort-of-right. When I believed in evolution (like you), and an atheist (like you) I thought I did moral things. Now since I've opened my eyes and did some critical thinking on my own, I now know God and the Truth. Since then, I see myself as the worst sinner. You won't understand this because of your atheistic worldview. It makes you laugh when I say such things because I was there and know what it is like.

 

[Deleted member 619]

Science is not about consensus. Critical thinking is now something of the past

Critical thinking may be in your past but if you wish to bring critical thinking back into your present, why not answer the questions asked of you in the other thread?

Critical thinking is only in the pastfor this poster in the sense that he's encountered both words before. He's never actually experienced thought, tnough, critical or otherwise.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

I know there is a God.

Citation needed.

 

[Collecemall]

I know what sin is. It's the tool that religion uses to take normal sane people and break them so that they can then offer them the "cure". The sad part is it's primarily aimed at children who then spend the rest of their lives thinking they are flawed. In a sane world this would be considered abuse. Sin is evil and not in the way you want to portray it.

 

[Deleted member 619]

Bingo!

Sin is predicated on the existence of a magical entity. You might as well threaten us with not getting any presents from Santa.

 

[DutchLiam84]

I know there is a God. It's the most logical and rational explanation about everything. And you are sort-of-right. When I believed in evolution (like you), and an atheist (like you) I thought I did moral things. Now since I've opened my eyes and did some critical thinking on my own, I now know God and the Truth. Since then, I see myself as the worst sinner. You won't understand this because of your atheistic worldview. It makes you laugh when I say such things because I was there and know what it is like.

Magic, the most logical and rational explanation about everything. You heard it here first folks. I mean holy shit, all this research that I do that takes me years. I could've just said GOD!
Why are bananas curved? GOD! Why does poop smell bad? GOD! Why is there so much pain and suffering in the world? GOD! Why does it hurt when I pee? GOD! How does my car work? GOD! Why is my bookshelf concave? GOD! I just farted....why? GOD! Why did Germany win the world cup? GOD! Why wrong is sentence order? GOD! Why did I just type this word? GOD! Blue balls? GOD! Hole in one? GOD! AIDS? GOD! Child pornography? GOD! ISIS? GOD! Psychopaths? GOD! Salt water? GOD! Guns? GOD! I think you catch my drift. Fuck, your life must be easy! The answer to every goddamn question ever: GOD!!!!!!!!!

The things you did then you don't consider to be moral anymore? Can I ask what kind of things you thought were moral but now you think aren't?

 

[JRChadwick]

No special frog.

There has been a 1000 plus comments on evidence...it's not working. Therefore we must examine the presuppositions of evolution.

You brought yours ... It failed. Your presupposition being evolution has the same presuppositions as science.

I don't need evidence... I need presuppositions. Based on the one you gave me you have no choice but to leave evolution.

 

[Mr_Wilford]

I literally felt brain cells die reading that.

 

[Rhed]

I know there is a God.

Citation needed.

It's written in your DNA. :mrgreen:

 

[Rhed]

I know what sin is. It's the tool that religion uses to take normal sane people and break them so that they can then offer them the "cure". The sad part is it's primarily aimed at children who then spend the rest of their lives thinking they are flawed. In a sane world this would be considered abuse. Sin is evil and not in the way you want to portray it.

I understand. We are all flawed. When someone judges me, they try to take the sawdust out of my eye while they have a log in theirs.

 

[Deleted member 619]

It's written in your DNA. :mrgreen:

If that's what passes for evidence in Rhedworld, no wonder you're crap at comedy.

Seriously, if you think that's funny, you're more of an idiot than I thought, which I suppose is an achievement, of sorts.

 

[Rhed]

I literally felt brain cells die reading that.

How many more do you have left?

 

[Deleted member 619]

When someone judges me, they try to take the sawdust out of my eye while they have a log in theirs.

Luckily, I don't judge you at all, only the bollocks you soil the forum with.

 

[Deleted member 619]

How many more do you have left?

Enough to know your conclusions are extracted directly from an orifice most readily associated with a more solid form of waste.