AronRa
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Now that this forum is up and running again, allow me to launch with another example of the insanity I get in email every day.
So I replied:Aron. Seriously ? The Ten Commandments were written to an ignorant people who could not figure out that is You love TRUTH and DO RIGHT then you will treat others properly as you would want to be treated .. don't steal lie cheat kill commit adultery let alone covet or be jealous. NOW nMister AronRA obviously you think you are so smart BUT you cannot even figure out that people sapient/sentient SELF ACTUATING ENTITIES are not "created perfect" for the same reason our babies are not created perfect , because they have to GROW AND LEARN to be SELF ACTUATING SELF ASCENDED ENTITIES!!! The Highest Moral Authority would never violate the right of a self actuating entity to NOT BELIEVE IN GOD or Truth or even doing right as even Satanists understand that " The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own."...
If you want to know who God really is ask me. Because God has told me he wants an army of atheists to reveal who he is to the whole world and you cannot do that until YOU know who he really is.
We are learning to be self actuating entities and the SINGULARITY is n longer a hypothetical point in time as Ray Kurzweil suggests... IT IS NOW.. yes holograms and virtual reality and super computers and artificial intelligence and quantum fluctuations and subatomic electromagnetic energy waves of photons/synapses ..
that Einstein said this about “It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure.”
And this was his response:Aron Ra said:The ten commandments don't say anything about truth. If people weren't allowed to lie, there would be no religion. Yes, people have the right to believe in their gods, but they also have a right to pursue truth, and that always leads the other way. A few Christians have told me they "have a right to be wrong", and that's true, but I have a right to be right, and other people have a right not to be deceived, especially by the empty assertions of any religion. A higher moral authority would at least caution against believing in lies that require faith.
A higher moral authority also would not have composed any of the so-called "commandments" we find in Genesis 20 through 34. But one that WOULD be there is that one should never assert baseless unsupported subjective impressions as though it were a matter of fact, like you just did when you said what you imagine your god told you. Pretending to know things no one even can know is dishonest, yet that's what all religions do, and that's what you did when you said I should ask you if I want to who God is. Even if there really was a god, it's obvious that you don't know anything about it.
It doesn't matter how convinced you are. All delusional people are absolute convinced of whatever their delusion is, whether it is belief in a flat earth, the Loch Ness monster, past life remembrance, or extraterrestrial reptiles in human guise in charge of the illuminati. None of those things are true, yet believers in each insist that they absolutely know otherwise. However knowledge is demonstrable with measurable accuracy. You can show what you know. But if you can't verify the accuracy of your claims to any degree at all by any means whatsoever then you cannot actually know what you merely believe.
I may post a response to all this, once time allows. In the meantime, I'll leave this to any parties interested in engaging this guy.I do not know if this is actually Aron Ra. But thank you for your response , as much clarification is necessary when you consider these words were intended for the feeble minded who could not understand why the two greatest commands would suffice.
and that is exactly what it did by having a talking snake use Gods Words to deceive Adam and Eve ... and Satan using Gods Words to try to deceive Jesus as he does all of us figuratively and metaphorically speaking and how Jesus greatest criticisms were of the Jewish Pharisees and Sadducees and high priests and even saying about Christians holy books and preachers “ they will do evil in my name “..... it’s not rocket science manipulate will claim the authority of God.....but Jesus said don’t call me good teacher because there is one teacher, referring to the personal experience inferred by the Golden Rule...the bible basically SCREAMS “ do NOT trust holy books and preachers” for a very good reason.The ten commandments don't say anything about truth. If people weren't allowed to lie, there would be no religion. Yes, people have the right to believe in their gods, but they also have a right to pursue truth, and that always leads the other way. A few Christians have told me they "have a right to be wrong", and that's true, but I have a right to be right, and other people have a right not to be deceived, especially by the empty assertions of any religion. A higher moral authority would at least caution against believing in lies that require faith.
It’s called do not bare false witness...“A higher moral authority also would not have composed any of the so-called "commandments" we find in Genesis 20 through 34. But one that WOULD be there is that one should never assert baseless unsupported subjective impressions as though it were a matter of fact,”
You do not know who my god is and you will have to be wise as I explain this to you... first as Carl Sagan says God is the laws of physics in a physical perception of reality.. I JUST NOW got this thought... once you have committed a thought into active motion, you cannot take it back from the past it is DONE you can change and correct a mistake you cannot make it not have happened that’s why NOW the singularity is GOD.....now pay close attention. God is the spirit of Truth and Right... by this definition“ like you just did when you said what you imagine your god told you. Pretending to know things no one even can know is dishonest, yet that's what all religions do, and that's what you did when you said I should ask you if I want to who God is. Even if there really was a god, it's obvious that you don't know anything about it.
“the nonphysical part of a person which is the seat of emotions and character; the soul.... and
“those qualities regarded as forming the definitive or typical elements in the character of a person, nation, or group or in the thought and attitudes of a particular period.”
Humans are jointly SAPIENT/SENTIENT entities Sagan got the sentient part but he and Einstein did not get the sapient part as I explained once you put your sapience into Motion it had better be based on the Truth of Sentient God of physics and be the RIGHT motion or you will have hell instead of heaven as the consequences of those actions you based your thoughts and beliefs and choices on.
again Einstein said ALL “mankind” is optically deluded into thinking he is separate from the universe, “... we are all just a virtual reality consisting of an entire universe created out of subatomic electromagnetic energy waves.. photons firing on and off creating a QUANTUM FLUCTUATION... which consists of the creation of matter (dark matter particles, or physical perception of the past QF) and anti matter ( dark energy waves or perception of hope and plans for future QF) instinct for survival. Of course the photon represents that visible 5% of the universe we perceive as visual..... these three remain FAITH in our memories of a past forever gone 0.. HOPE for a future never here 0... and LOVE of our existence of NOW 1...which is all that ever exists which is a combination of that matter anti matter thoughts of the frequencies we call angstroms and decibels or the perceived sights and sounds that make up our virtual reality that Einstein said this about “It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure.”...... ask me anything you want about god or this SINGULARITY That we exist as a virtual reality that is a constant now that continually expands by the creation of past and future thoughts, the edge of the universe seems like a event horizon because you cannot see beyond. The edge of now in either direction past or future because neither exists except as our NOW SAPIENCE which perceived our SENTIENCE as a virtual reality that we are creating, now by now.It doesn't matter how convinced you are. All delusional people are absolute convinced of whatever their delusion is, whether it is belief in a flat earth, the Loch Ness monster, past life remembrance, or extraterrestrial reptiles in human guise in charge of the illuminati. None of those things are true, yet believers in each insist that they absolutely know otherwise. However knowledge is demonstrable with measurable accuracy. You can show what you know. But if you can't verify the accuracy of your claims to any degree at all by any means whatsoever then you cannot actually know what you merely believe.