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australopithecus said:
I Fucking love autocorrect on my new phone!
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Infuriatingly stupid atheists
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I Fucking love autocorrect on my new phone!
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The Felonius Pope
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Things just haven't been the same since Mace Windu deflected that force lighting into my face...australopithecus said:
When debating creationists, I've often found myself sliding into worse ways of arguing than I know I'm capable of, simply because they refuse to understand arguments beyond the sort of, "So THERE" tactics they employ. I'm sure there are many atheists who don't have a full understanding of what they're talking about, (Myself included) but I think much of the time it just comes from the fact that they won't react to, or try to comprehend more well thought out arguments that aren't based on the kind of absolutes they embrace.
Dragan Glas
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Greetings,
Perhaps if we all watched it, there might be a embarrassed shuffling of feet as we all look at each other...!
Kindest regards,
James
Do you have a link for the "bionicdance vid"?televator said:
Perhaps if we all watched it, there might be a embarrassed shuffling of feet as we all look at each other...!
Kindest regards,
James
Dragan Glas said:Greetings,
Do you have a link for the "bionicdance vid"?televator said:
Perhaps if we all watched it, there might be a embarrassed shuffling of feet as we all look at each other...!
Kindest regards,
James
IDK what that last bit means. I can be terrible with conversational memes.
Here you go:
I actually don't care much for the drama spurred on by this. I just find the info quite clear and useful.
Dragan Glas
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Greetings,
Thank you, televator.
My tongue-in-cheek point was that we might all realise that we're "stupid" if our individual understanding of the word turned out to be wrong.
Kindest regards,
James
Thank you, televator.
My tongue-in-cheek point was that we might all realise that we're "stupid" if our individual understanding of the word turned out to be wrong.
Kindest regards,
James
I remember when I first understood what it was to be an atheist (after reading the god delusion) it made me feel, I don't know, I guess I felt like I was clever by default.
It's only over these last couple of years that I have realised
1 - I don't know anything
2 - I didn't understand what being a believer really meant
3 - I didn't really understand what atheism really meant.
4 - Learning and being humble is the only position worth having.
I get the idea with a lot of youtube atheists that they seem to be stuck where I was, that by saying they're an atheist is to somehow play a pair of aces and gives them the right to call stupid on everybody else. It is something I don't like, I think it's arrogant and ignorant and causes ill blood where it isn't necessary.
Like has been said before, I love science first, science is my real true love, atheism means nothing to me too be honest, I don't feel there is any need to fight over it or defend it, it's just a word and not a very important one at that.
It's only over these last couple of years that I have realised
1 - I don't know anything
2 - I didn't understand what being a believer really meant
3 - I didn't really understand what atheism really meant.
4 - Learning and being humble is the only position worth having.
I get the idea with a lot of youtube atheists that they seem to be stuck where I was, that by saying they're an atheist is to somehow play a pair of aces and gives them the right to call stupid on everybody else. It is something I don't like, I think it's arrogant and ignorant and causes ill blood where it isn't necessary.
Like has been said before, I love science first, science is my real true love, atheism means nothing to me too be honest, I don't feel there is any need to fight over it or defend it, it's just a word and not a very important one at that.
The Felonius Pope
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I'm just saying that if sufficient evidence for a deity comes to light I will rethink my current atheistic position.CommonEnlightenment said:
The Felonius Pope said:
In all honesty: Is there anything that could convince you of that? I personally don't think that there's anything that could convince me of a deity. Just imagine what could convince you...
Some people say "If it manifested itself". Well, isn't it much more likely you're having a hallucination? And even if multiple witnesses corroborate your experience, isn't it much more likely that they were having a mass hallucination? And if you argue that "no, this would be admissible" then you have to accept the "Our Lady Of Fatima" story. After all, over 70,000 people saw her!
OK, so that's not going to convince anyone. What WOULD convince you, me, anyone? Miracles? It's more likely we're witnessing some very, very, very advanced science. Premonitions, fortune-telling? I'd be suspicious that it's just a gigantic hoax, but I guess this would be the most convincing of all.
So yeah, what WOULD convince you?
WarK
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Inferno said:
A theistic god? The god of the bible? The book is full of contradictions. Theists usually define their god in a such way that it's logically impossible to exist. Hell, they can't even decide on what's the best evidence or even argument for god's existence.
C'mon, talking snakes, cities of walking zombies, a woman from a rib? Even discussing this is silly beyond all silliness. We could as well discuss Hercules, Zues, Odin, Perun and a multitude of other gods created by humans.
A deistic kind of god? If science could show that this universe was created in a lab, maybe as a by-product of an experiment carried out by a form of life in another (parallel) universe, if this could withstand the test of scientific method and become the scientific consensus then yeah. It wouldn't be absolute certainty because science doesn't give you this, neither would it be faith, you don't need faith if you have evidence.
...on the other hand. Would that still count as a god? Isn't a god supernatural by definition? Doesn't it leave a god outside of reality?
WarK
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Inferno said:
I don't have anything beyond what I said about it being confirmed by science. But how can it, if it's supernatural? Personal experience, revelation aren't reliable.
It's hard to come up with anything solid. Theistic kind of god is just a fairy tale. Deistic is so vaguely defined that I can't be bothered. Besides, the burden of proof is not on me. All I can say is that so far I haven't come across any convincing arguments for existence of god.
The Felonius Pope
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Hmm.... I suppose if science were to hint at a deity. I honestly have no idea how they would go about researching that sort of thing, though....Inferno said: