Metalgod said:Knowing everything about the present is different from knowing everything about the future. Heres one of the verses I was talking about earlier. TGotB says in Jeremiah 32:35
"They have built altars to Baal in Hinnom Valley, to sacrifice their sons and daughters to the god Molech. I did not command them to do this, and it did not even enter my mind that they would do such a thing and make the people of Judah sin"
God even seems at times to not even have total knowledge about the present. Especially in Genesis. He's asks questions like Where are you? What are you doing? Where's your brother? ect. Questions that we often ask our own childeren.
Inferno said:Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.
ALTERNATE VERSION
Before a word is on my tongue
you, Lord, know it completely.
If I read that correctly, that's premonition.
But like I said, there are contradictory parts in the Bible. Sometimes, God knows everything in advance and everything about the presence, then God does not know places that other people do know.
The Bible is self-contradictory. What do you make of that?
From the evidence we have both given so far, we can say that TGotB knows some things about the future. What I asking is, is there anywhere in the bible where God says he knows everything about the future.
Inferno said:More or less. A rather more complete list can be found here:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/
So again: How is that not immoral? Isn't that proof enough of an immoral God? If not, why?
Did God have to kill those people, those babies? Was that self-defence? I would hardly think so!?
Tell me a single instance where the murder of an innocent, healthy baby born into a loving, caring family is a good thing and I will grant you your answer.
Failing to do that, God has failed the easiest moral hurdle. How can you revere such a being, how can you believe in it?
Knowing that, in the bible, TgotB created life, you must also know that He has the authority to take it away. If that was all we knew about TgotB, then we would have to say Hes pretty morally neutral.
In the Bible, God also suffers because of us and for us, dies for all of our sins and communicates a way to eternal life in paradise.
Inferno said:where do morals come from?
I dont know right now. Thank you, Inferno.
Also, I would like to spend a few days in Austria next week just as a tourist. I hate driving. Will I need a car?