Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

[CosmicJoghurt]

May I ask one simple question?

If I haven't explained anything and there is nothing of value in the thread then why do you keep coming back to it???

I did not post the thread for you.......I did not post the thread for one person.

I have no desire to engage in endless hair splitting with you.

You are free to move on to some other intelligent thread in the forum.

You posted this thread on a public forum. That means that other people are free to comment and take what they want from it.
I'm interested in this thread because I'm interested in your point of view and I'd like to know in more detail what you think. However you keep spitting the same shit all over it, repeating yourself and, in the end, not addressing our points as thoroughly as we do yours.

If you have no desire to address my points individually, with any kind of respect for what I really say, that's sad.

Also, I'm free to move on to any thread I want, I don't need your sarcastic permission for that.

.All problems of Industrial Society are unsolvable because Industrialization itself is the cause of problems.

You still haven't specified exactly how Industrialization, in detail, is unsolvable. You're saying the same stuff you said in the first page.

Discussion is good only if it is limited in content.........Excessive Discussion is a disease.

Endless Discussion, Debate and Argument is a Disease and Insanity of Industrial Society that invented the Printing Press, Radio, Television and Internet.

What does this have to do with this thread? If anything here is endless, it's your repetition of points you've already made, in response to detailed points of ours.

Billions of pages of Discussion, Debate and Argument is another harmful waste of Industrial Society just like billions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic Waste, Chemical waste, Gaseous Waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.

To finish off, here's a little tip: don't use capital letters in the start of every word, It's annoying. I don't know about Hindi, but in English, capital letters are generally only used in the start of a sentence.

 

[CosmicJoghurt]

...... without offering any sort of solution .

This question would make sense if environment had never been saved before....... This question would make sense if environment had never been saved in the past.

You are asking a question whose answer has been known for millions of years.

You save environment the way it was saved for millions of years.

There is only one way to save environment.......Destroy less.

Animals saved environment by destroying it only for food.

Hunter_Gatherer Society saved environment by destroying it only for food.

Agrarian Society saved environment by destroying it only for food, clothing and shelter.

For millions of years the list of things that destroyed environment never exceeded food, clothing and shelter.

You cannot save environment by destroying more of it.........You cannot save environment by destroying it for thousands of consumer goods and services in addition to food, clothing and shelter.

Animals, hunter-gatherer societies and Agrarian Societies didn't save the planet, it was fine to begin with and they didn't really destroy it much. The other side of the coin is that in return, they had a much shorter lifespan, tons of diseases, and that's just for starters.


You STILL haven't explained how exactly to save the planet. All you said now is "destroy less". That's exactly what we were talking about, goddamnit. Green technologies destroy less, they're safer and that's why they're a worthwhile investment.

Explain how green technologies aren't part of the solution, and explain EXACTLY how you'd like 7 billion people to live "a simpler life".

 

[Prolescum]

Terms some think important become Proper Nouns, usually after being Persistently Criticised for taping their caps lock down.

It amazes me that people still believe all they have to do to convince people of their point of view is to make proclamations.

"The end of the world is nigh!"
"Oh? How so?"
"Just look!"
"At what?"
"The world! It's ending all around us!"
"But how? What should I be looking for?"
"The signs that it's ending!"
"...and where are they?"
"They're all around us!"
"I give up"
"Another one who just doesn't understand what I'm saying. The world is ending!"
"This conversation is, at least."

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings.

Our industrial society will change to a "green" society - thus retaining "hi-tech" industries, whilst changing the impact on the environment.

Industrial Society has been spreading ridiculous and blatant lies.....Two of them are......Forest cover is rising and the planet is getting cleaner due to modern technology.

Forest cover was maximum during Hunter_Gatherer stage......Agrarian Society cut down forests to create agricultural fields......Industrial Society further cut down forests for all kinds of Industrial Activity......Logging Industry, Mining Industry, Energy Generation Industry, Oil Drilling, Oil Refining, Construction Industry, Ever expanding Towns and Cities, Millions of kilometers of Rail and Road Networks.....Anyone with a little bit of common sense would know that forest cover cannot rise in Industrial Society.....This is an impossibility.

FAO: World deforestation decreases, but remains alarming in many countries

It is impossible for Air, Water and Soil to be clean in Industrial Society.......Industrial Activity produces three kinds of waste - Solid, Liquid and Gaseous .......And it does not produce just a few kilograms of waste, it produces Trillions of tonnes of waste - There are only three places on earth where this waste can go - Air, water and Soil - There is no fourth place on earth where Industrial Waste can go......Liquid Waste goes into Rivers and Oceans, Solid Waste is thrown away on the land and Gaseous Waste goes into the atmosphere......Industrial Activity in the last 250 years has contaminated and poisoned the planet with Trillions of Tonnes of Metal Waste, Plastic waste, Chemical Waste, Gaseous waste, eWaste and Nuclear Waste.....It is impossible for Air, Water and Soil to be clean in Industrial Society......It is impossible for Rivers and Oceans to be clean in Industrial Society......It is impossible for Air / Atmosphere to be clean in Industrial Society......It is impossible for the Land / Soil to be clean in Industrial Society......The entire planet has become a Toxic Dump.....The entire planet has turned into a Landfill / Garbage Dump.

Carbon Nation
Factories, pollution and other causes of global warming [see links to right of article]
Reducing Industrial Pollution

..to name but a few possible solutions.

Kindest regards,

James