Has being honest ever gotten you more FEMALE ATTENTION?

[Demojen]

Seems self explanatory?

People flirt all the time. Flirting isn't outright lying but it certainly isn't honest. It plays on words and deception, expectations and seduction to meet the needs or wants of those involved.

Though sometimes I wonder if it's worked for anyone, not flirting, just being honest with women.
I was specific in this post because I know that in the reverse by and large, if a woman was honest with a man about wanting to have RELATIONS, it would work.

It is interesting how the minds of women work. I get the inclination that they are uniquely aware of how aesthetically pleasing they are, in the same way incredibly attractive men are. Though the standards of men generally seem to be significantly lower then those of women when choosing a mate.

It is probably a good thing that honesty does not equal FEMALE ATTENTION. If it did, then the standards of women would drop to incredible depths and the standards of men would likely follow, dropping even further.

The mating game is a survival mechanism.
Intelligence is becoming more and more of a niche market.
Are we killing our society by not having more babies?

The stupid people certainly aren't slowing down.
*Turns off rant*

I suppose my question is personal for most of you. OH WELL.

Has being honest ever gotten you more FEMALE ATTENTION?

 

[Commander Eagle]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

:shock:

This is in skepticism why...?

 

[borrofburi]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

It gets me stronger friendships, and my actual girlfriend rather likes it.

 

[Jotto999]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

Board index ,» Reason ,» General Scepticism

Huh. That's...uhh...interesting.

 

[Friday]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

Q "So, you want to have sex?"

A "HELL YES!"

Honesty works....

 

[MRaverz]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

Board index ,» Reason ,» General Scepticism/How To Get Teh Ladies

Huh. That's...uhh...interesting.

Fixed.

 

[Yo Sushi]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

In my experience, calling us pussy is a guaranteed way to not get any.

 

[AndromedasWake]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

In my experience, calling us pussy is a guaranteed way to not get any.

I'm so glad I got to approve this. :lol:

OP, let me know if you want me to... correct the title.

 

[Case]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

In my experience, calling us pussy is a guaranteed way to not get any.

I'm so glad I got to approve this. :lol:

OP, let me know if you want me to... correct the title.

(Purportedly) She didn't say the opposite was true, too.

 

[Ibis3]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

In my experience, calling us pussy is a guaranteed way to not get any.

His definition of honesty probably doesn't include exhibiting how much of a misogynist fuckwit he is, except when he's hidden behind online anonymity.


@TK I looked around for forum rules & couldn't find them, but at the very least can we say this OP is off-topic? If there isn't a forum rule against misogynist (& racist etc.) language, perhaps there should be. To me, it seems to tarnish the high ideals of the LoR. I certainly never expected to be called "pussy" here.

 

[Jotto999]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

If there isn't a forum rule against misogynist (& racist etc.) language, perhaps there should be. To me, it seems to tarnish the high ideals of the LoR. I certainly never expected to be called "pussy" here.

IIRC there is;

DO NOT post racist, sexist or homophobic remarks.

What he said may have been offensive, but the thing is, being offensive only speaks of the one doing it. And similarly, being offended is revealing about you (especially if you retort in an offensive way).

On the internet (but potentially anywhere) you will get a taste of basically anyone's opinion. Which is golden and I do not think should be changed ever. However, it does mean that if you are offended easily, "use at your own risk". Thick skin recommended, may require shrugging off trivial insults. And that's certainly nothing LoR specific.

 

[Commander Eagle]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

In my experience, calling us pussy is a guaranteed way to not get any.

Lady, after an intro post this epic, you damn well better be planning on becoming a forum regular.

 

[Ibis3]

What he said may have been offensive, but the thing is, being offensive only speaks of the one doing it. And similarly, being offended is revealing about you (especially if you retort in an offensive way).

On the internet (but potentially anywhere) you will get a taste of basically anyone's opinion. Which is golden and I do not think should be changed ever. However, it does mean that if you are offended easily, "use at your own risk". Thick skin recommended, may require shrugging off trivial insults. And that's certainly nothing LoR specific.

If the OP had been titled "Has being honest ever gotten you more labour out of niggers?" I don't think you would be so quick to turn your criticism on me for being too easily offended. The fact is that sexism is more easily accepted than racism in our society, and that's a shame (especially in a community of supposedly enlightened minds).

Perhaps women who would object to such treatment are loath to speak up because they might be labelled feminazis, or hysterical, or just hypersensitive and too easily offended (such girly things to be after all). So then the ones who do object seem to be over reacting. It's a vicious cycle.

Another thing to keep in mind: people object to racial and sexist epithets, not because they are offended at the language but because they find odious the attitudes that underlie them.

 

[AndromedasWake]

Yes, I agree that this thread title does deserve a warning on reflection, as the rules instruct users not to use sexist or unnecessarily crude language in both forums and chat.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

The urge to be sexist and/or use unnecessarily crude language is nearly overwhelming now!! ARRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!! All the ********** are ******** hot ****** with their ******** in the ****** of the *********** with * complete lack of what the French call "********".


OK, now that I got that out of my system, I'm not sure if I understand the question exactly. Does being honest about what exactly is supposed to lead to increased chances of hooking up with women? Being honest about your bed-wetting as a child, or how often you scratch your balls and then sniff your fingers isn't going to get you anywhere.

Do you mean not being a lying dirtbag? It might not get you in with women immediately, since it is easier to impress people by lying. In the long run you'll have more successful relationships if you're not a psychopathic cretin.

Or, did you just mean that if you walk up to random women and say "I wanna screw" maybe that sort of bluntness will be a winning strategy? In my experience that only works on really drunk women... and if they're that drunk you should probably wait until they sober up before asking for their consent. Plus, women KNOW that you want to have sex with them, you don't have to "be honest" about it.

I don't know what we're supposed to be talking about here... I'm so many years past this sort of thing that it seems like it was some other guy entirely cruising for hot chicks all those years ago. Why not like meet girls where you hang out and maybe ask one of them out on a date or something? It seems to me like you're skipping a couple of steps in the process.

 

[Jotto999]

Re: Has being honest ever gotten you more pussy?

If the OP had been titled "Has being honest ever gotten you more labour out of niggers?" I don't think you would be so quick to turn your criticism on me for being too easily offended. The fact is that sexism is more easily accepted than racism in our society, and that's a shame (especially in a community of supposedly enlightened minds).

Perhaps women who would object to such treatment are loath to speak up because they might be labelled feminazis, or hysterical, or just hypersensitive and too easily offended (such girly things to be after all). So then the ones who do object seem to be over reacting. It's a vicious cycle.

Another thing to keep in mind: people object to racial and sexist epithets, not because they are offended at the language but because they find odious the attitudes that underlie them.

Frankly...yes I would, and not because I condone racism or misogyny (I have great dislike for both and find they are long obsolete mindsets). If the OP had named the title something racist like you mentioned, I would have assumed he was a troll, and like the bazillion others visible on the internet, there would be nothing specific about it. Instant shrug, another doofus revealed. Though I did used to get offended lots on the internet.

I guess all I'm trying to say is...do not feed the troll. If it's not a troll, then it's probably some kind of idiot. Or a young person who will probably change some day.

I hope it doesn't look like I'm defending misogyny, if it does, then I have surely expressed myself poorly.

 

[Eidolon]

Hmm. I didn't find the original title to be sexist.

I thought the author was asking if honest people owned more cats.

You all have dirty minds....

 

[Ibis3]

I guess all I'm trying to say is...do not feed the troll. If it's not a troll, then it's probably some kind of idiot. Or a young person who will probably change some day.

I hope it doesn't look like I'm defending misogyny, if it does, then I have surely expressed myself poorly.

The problem is, if we say nothing to object to sexism when we encounter it, that is tantamount to condonation. Young people (or society) will never change if we just keep our mouths shut and our heads down.

@TK Thanks for changing the title. Now perhaps Demogen will take it upon himself to change his post.

 

[Jotto999]

The problem is, if we say nothing to object to sexism when we encounter it, that is tantamount to condonation. Young people (or society) will never change if we just keep our mouths shut and our heads down.

If reacting to trolls could have a chance at making them reconsider their position, then I'd agree. But speaking out against misogyny in that format is not likely to give good results, except for the troll, who will be very well fed.

Perhaps we should make a different thread for misogyny, and how it can be diminished. After all, to keep this one afloat may not be ideal.

 

[Demojen]

Quite intriguing. The responses to this post are very interesting.

No, I did not use a particular language to reference a woman. In fact the title was meant to reference the verb and it's role in society.
I find it interesting that the women responding associate the word as it has been used, with misogyny. Particularly considering the topic.

I hold no contempt or hatred of women. Are you going to call all things that clash with your world view of how words should be used, misogyny or racism or hatred now? How...narrow minded. I will concede that perhaps I should be wearing kiddy gloves with some civil discourse, but will say this in my defense.

I did not use this particular language because I was interested in getting any. My interest is in the subject, not "the reward".
For some of us, exploring the concept is worth the controversy.

I accept the warning and apologize to those who felt it necessary to interpret the post for their own gains.