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Feminism or batshit insane-ism?

Prolescum

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I stumbled upon this blog A room of our own recently, so thought I'd share...

From May 14, 2010
A room of our own said:
Women who, whether by choice or by force, deal with males are on the front line, not of an offensive strategy, but of the slaughter. While it may be true that women on the front line divert a certain amount of male attention away from other women, it is not an effective strategy, let alone reliably so. It is not guaranteed, after all, that males with willing or coerced rape-objects will always leave unwilling or uncoerced women alone. Not only that, the continued availability of willing and coerced rape-objects negatively affects all women, as it encourages males to view us all as potential targets.

Now, I understand that separatism isn't for everyone. But what I can't tolerate are attempts to justify the easy choice to remain with males (women who have no choice aside) as being somehow a means to a positive net gain for female human beings as a class. Inevitable though it may be that women will always choose to place themselves and their daughters in harm's way, separatists do not owe it to male-lovers to pretend as though the path of least resistance is anything other than what it is, capitulation.

I also find the constant appeals to "third world" women's inescapable captivity by way of making excuses for western white women's continued collaboration with males to be disrespectful, to say the least. No, separatism is not merely a privileged woman's choice, and no, choosing it does not mean a woman is out of touch with the circumstances of the female masses. When rural Kenyan women can set up their own female-only settlements and women in Papua New Guinea can choose not to mother sons specifically to end male violence, attempting to frame separatism as available only to women of privilege is blatantly inaccurate. And it's offensive.

In fact, privilege acts more as a hindrance to separatism than as the necessary condition collaborationist women would have you believe it is. Why would women who are privileged by their physical, social, and economic proximity to white males relinquish those privileges by cutting ties? It would certainly be nice if men's accomplices would simply admit that, instead of appealing to the desolation of poorer women's lives in order to frame their collusion as feminism.

It's quite an eye opener.

If you decide to comment there, bear in mind they have been known to edit comments they don't like to make fun out of dissenting opinion. Enjoy!
 
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I don't know why, but I don't get it. Someone enlighten me, please. What's she saying?
 
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Here's their about page:
About the Authors
About E. Kitty Glendower

Dyed-in-the-wool mocker with Nomadic roots. Terribly cynical and borderline indolent. I entertain myself by finding humor in everything, including parody-like criticism of myself.

I hate fake anti-racists and fake anti-sexists. If you don't really-really care to get to the bottom of it all, then don't bother pretending.

I am a Radical Feminist, meaning, no male is above suspicion.


I tell stories. I like to tell stories. I like it when people actually read my stories. I like it when people read my stories and think of things in their lives. I like it when my stories provoke thought. However, I don't like it when people take my stories, put their own spin on it, and then bring it back to me and say it is my story. Your spin. Your story. Not that difficult.

I've been very lucky in life.

I like to edit.

Email me at egarooo at gmail dot com

About Margaret Jamison

Rolling stone black lesbian separatist with Southern roots. I hate males of all ages, colors, and sizes.

If you have a problem with American black women, have the decency not to sully the comment threads on our posts. If you think American black women are oppressing you, as a western nonblack woman, there are more things wrong with you than I would ever be able to address in a blog post.
So, just don't even bother. Thanks.

Email me at margiejamison at gmail dot com.

They're quite er adamant in their stance.

I think Margaret's the cheery one:
Margaret said:
The first question any sane, self-loving woman would ask upon realizing that the vast majority of males are rapists is how to keep these rapists away from girls and women. The fact that so many women instead ask how to keep the males from being rapists is a manifestation of feminine masochism.
 
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Case said:
I don't know why, but I don't get it. Someone enlighten me, please. What's she saying?
She's advocating separation of the sexes as a way to lower rates of violence. In this piece she is attacking women (rape-objects, as she calls them) who choose to stay with men and addressing the arguments they might launch in defense of their decision to live in mixed communities.

Basically she wants a sexual apartheid and is annoyed at the women who disagree.
 
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Aught3 said:
Case said:
I don't know why, but I don't get it. Someone enlighten me, please. What's she saying?
She's advocating separation of the sexes as a way to lower rates of violence. In this piece she is attacking women who choose to stay with men (rape-objects, as she calls them) and addressing the arguments they might launch in defense of their decision to live in mixed communities.

Basically she wants a sexual apartheid and is annoyed at the women who disagree.
Thanks. That is batshit-crazy indeed. So this is the kind of woman ZOMGitsCriss rants about. Now I understand.
 
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To Margaret Jamison

Ironic that you would label men rapists. Rapists aren't men anymore then your rape-objects are women. Yet here you are degrading women on the whole for their own choices and taking away the authority from women to be accountable for those choices by labeling them subject to the will of man.

Children do not have the mental capacity to host more then a base understanding of their own emotions and you're abusing your children to suggest courting is anything more then it is. These children are not conditioned rapists and little girls are not conditioned rape-objects.

You're a tool for subjecting a child to the mindset that they should be pigeon holed by society, including yourself, to be anything but themselves. I believe in accountability, but I seriously doubt that you do. You've been hiding behind being a woman to excuse your behavior for your entire life.

You are a coward.
 
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That's not feminism, it is paranoid delusion and aggressive misandry dressed as feminism. In her diseased mind, no man can like or respect a woman, and no woman should like or respect men. Forget about love and sex, of course... even though most people consider those things to be natural and fulfilling parts of the human experience, this nutjob apparently things that all relationships are men enslaving women.

Somehow also hates and despises transgendered people, and gay men too. Penis=bad.
 
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That makes me grr... annoyed. Firstly, abusing Virginia Woolf for her own ends, and secondly, trying to pass off this kind of chauvinism, victim complex and paranoia under the women's movement. Feminism should properly mean the equality of the sexes, and this misrepresents, and makes me grr... crazy, so I would I definitely would call this an example of bat-shit-crazyism. :(

Speaking of crazy, you should watch Zardoz now.
 
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It just occured to me.

This woman assumes men are rapists and women are either rape-objects or extreme feminists, but she COMPLETELY ignores that

WOMEN RAPE MEN TOO!

Women aren't the only victims for this crime.
 
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Demojen said:
It just occured to me.

This woman assumes men are rapists and women are either rape-objects or extreme feminists, but she COMPLETELY ignores that

WOMEN RAPE MEN TOO!

Women aren't the only victims for this crime.
I'm sure that she would define rape as something only a man can do to a woman, and probably dismiss man-on-man rape as either deserved or secretly encouraged by the victims. Then she'd claim that women who assault men in any way are only doing so because they are victimized by men and therefore bear no responsibility.

Just figure out the ugliest scenario, and that's probably what she believes.
 
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Radical anything is problematic and feminism does have its faults.

The "all men are rapists" crowd is loopy enough, but getting to know other parts of nut-job feminism highlights their negative impact on the credibility of equal gender rights.

Andrea Dworkin is a case in point. This prolific author uses bombast, unsupported argumentation and sweeping generalizations to denounce many things including pornography as subjugating to women. She is as deaf as a creationist on Darwin Day to the responses from her feminist critics, as well as female porn stars who claim pride and pleasure in their work.

The Marxist feminists run with the idea that a new communist revolution will end gender inequality despite the fact that as Wikipedia notes, "... most Marxist forerunners claimed by feminists or "marxist feminists" including Clara Zetkin and Alexandra Kollontai were against feminism." The sorry record of the USSR, China, Cuba and North Korea on women's rights doesn't seem to sway them either.

Eco-feminism asserts that there is a branch of environmentalism gender-specific to women. Other than the branch eco-feminism made up for itself, it's difficult to understand what they're even talking about.

It's disheartening to see so many of feminism's problems coming from within. For more see http://www.spiritus-temporis.com/feminism/criticisms-of-feminism.html
 
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This isn't feminism. It's sexism.

Feminism means equality among the genders.

Sexism is the belief that one's own gender is superior.

These women seem to think their gender is morally superior. Ergo, they are sexists, not feminists.
 
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It's a shame these women don't choose to lead by example when it comes to their idea of separatism. We could do with a few less loonies - especially ones who like to blame their inferiority complex on others.
 
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Pennies for Thoughts said:
The Marxist feminists run with the idea that a new communist revolution will end gender inequality despite the fact that as Wikipedia notes, "... most Marxist forerunners claimed by feminists or "marxist feminists" including Clara Zetkin and Alexandra Kollontai were against feminism." The sorry record of the USSR, China, Cuba and North Korea on women's rights doesn't seem to sway them either.
I've been told that china isn't that bad on women's rights.
 
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Girls will be girls. Maybe they just experienced a situation wherein they were left by their boyfriends for another girl. ^-^
 
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