Everybody draw Holocaust day (30 June 2010)

[nemesiss]

Let them do it. Holocaust denial is no different in its formulation than creationism. In fact, as many have pointed out, a larger percentage of historians deny the holocaust than biologists deny evolution.

What's depressing is that amongst all of the talk about DMD, even from reasonable parties, very few people actually seem to get the point of it. Denying the holocaust is not a proportional response, because those who participated in DMD are not denying the existence of Muhammad per se, but rather denying bullies the right to make violent threats.

This only serves to further the anti-semite and anti-evidence stereotype of the Muslim religion.

i thought these people were atleast better at making arguments against the holocaust, but that one got shattered,

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=125126400846347&topic=100
"66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust"

here are examples;

1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews?
None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual "survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics.

10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as early as 1933?
In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an international boycott of German goods.

11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"?
Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea Declares War on Germany."

14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz?
None.

20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere?
Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials.

26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of Jews?
No.

41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames in this manner because of lack of oxygen.

53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish extermination program?
None.

63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged the Holocaust story?
They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence.

 

[Asrahn]

nemesiss, I pasted a link to a document containing a list of some holocaust victims in their comment section, mainly for shits and giggles.

The most common argument used amongst the muslims who do support EDHD is the "We don't believe in the holocaust." one, a pathetic attempt at mirroring what they believe was the real reason behind Draw Muhammad Day. It's all in their right to do this, and I won't protest against their inane arguments and narrow-minded bullshitting as they try to alter history. The only thing they will accomplish through this is to show the world that they didn't get what Draw Muhammad Day was about, and display the hatred and dislike they hold for Jews and the US.

Which we kinda could have figured out earlier from the flag burning and stuff. I don't know, just seemed to point in that direction.

EDIT: As expected, they had my comment removed. Go censorship!

 

[nemesiss]

EDIT: As expected, they had my comment removed. Go censorship!

ALOT of comments and topics that didn't agree with them got removed.
i think im banned from posting there
shows how much they value free speech.


if i were to draw on this holocaust day i would do a 4-frame cartoon.
frame - 1 gameshow like title "Dumbest thing in the world"
frame - 2 a creationist stating evolution is a lie created by atheists
frame - 3 a muslim stating the holocaust is a lie created by jews
frame - 4 a jury comprised of Jesus, einstein and Muhammed (with censorbars), all answering "its a tie"

 

[Mapp]

This is fantastic. Not only have they completely and totally missed the point, that Draw Mohammed Day was about answering intimidation and threats against free speech, but they're responding by engaging in speech and symbolic expression, albeit extremely stupid expression.

 

[ImprobableJoe]

This is fantastic. Not only have they completely and totally missed the point, that Draw Mohammed Day was about answering intimidation and threats against free speech, but they're responding by engaging in speech and symbolic expression, albeit extremely stupid expression.

Yeah, they don't seem to understand that we're also in favor of their cartoons, no matter how offensive they might be.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

-and, moreover, they are banning anything from the site that disagrees with their views upon the subject...

:facepalm:

If they're going to make a mockery of something and fail at it, they could atleast TRY to make it the same.

 

[DepricatedZero]

So, I don't know if this has been brought up yet, but did Islam just officially Godwin out of the debate?

edit: though come to think of it, the comparison they're drawing between Muhammed and Hitler may be apt, but Hitler wasn't a pedophile.

 

[butterbattle]

-and, moreover, they are banning anything from the site that disagrees with their views upon the subject...

That's very sad, really. Even with Draw Holocaust Day, they are still the party doing all the censoring. Can you say, "missing the point?"

 

[TheReasonableAtheist]

I don't understand why they attack the Jewish faith when atheists made draw Muhammed day. ( yes i get the whole Gaza conflict, between Muslims & Jews )

 

[JustBusiness17]

On the other hand maybe the Muslims who take part in this day will learn about free speech.

Aught, seriously... Quit making fun of the fundies :!:

 

[Aught3]

I heard the DMD facebook page was taken down, I presume the same has happened to the holocaust page?

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

I heard the DMD facebook page was taken down, I presume the same has happened to the holocaust page?

What? You expect political correctness instead of equality?
Pfft.

I'm not sure as to the page's status, but I'm pretty sure it's still up.

 

[Shydrow]

Good for them. At least now they know that killing isn't the only option when someone pokes fun at your prophet.