Creation vs Evolution: An Analogy

[Duvelthehobbit666]

I have thought of a nice analogy concerning the creationism/evolution debate. You are free to use it if you will. So here is goes:

Lets say that you have a nice piece of high quality beef. You want to go and cook it and enjoy it. Now lets say that there are two people you can go to for advice on how to cook the meat. You must go to one of the persons. One of the people you can go to is head janitor at Microsoft. He does his work very well and the people praise his work. However, he is not good in the kitchen and his culinary expertise is very low. The other person is head chef at a restaurant with a Michelin star. He has a great understanding of cooking and is an expert in the cooking of high quality meats. Now when asked to choose one out of these two people, you would most likely choose the chef. This is for most people an easy question to answer. So when it comes to the creationism/evolution debate, why would you choose the person who doesn't know anything about evolution?

I hope you like this analogy.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

Just throw up Heliocentrism vs. Geocentrism

 

[Squawk]

Argument from authority (which I contend is perfectly valid btw), but thats still what it is.

 

[Visaki]

Head of Microsoft Windows 8 development (not that I have anything against janitors, I used to be one, but just in case some people look down on them): Heat oven to 250 C, toss in steak for an hour and it's perfectly done medium rare. Have I ever done it? Hell no, I have people for that.

50 randomly picked head chefs from restaurants with 3 Michelin stars: No, because the steak would not only be overdone but also burned to a crisp. We actually have studied this and done experiments indicating that leaving a steak to a 250C oven for an hour will totally ruin it. Here's the paper on it. Our findings were checked by other chefs and found to both accurate and repeatable and anyone with an oven and a steak can actually repeat our experiments if they want. We also predict that a good medium rare steak can be done by frying it in a hot pan with clear butter about two minutes per cm per side, or in case of thicker steaks by quick sear followed by 225C oven untill the steak is 66C inside.

So, MS head developer or the chefs?

 

[KittenKoder]

One hiccup in your analogy, no one can cook a steak I prefer better than I can. I am neither of those. I have worked in food service, but not cooking steak. However that is moot, because as I said, no one can ever cook a steak I would enjoy more than myself.

 

[Laurens]

One hiccup in your analogy, no one can cook a steak I prefer better than I can. I am neither of those. I have worked in food service, but not cooking steak. However that is moot, because as I said, no one can ever cook a steak I would enjoy more than myself.

I think you highlight another problem with the analogy too...

A good steak is a matter of opinion. If I like medium rare steaks then I'm unlikely to enjoy your cooking as much if you cook them well done whereas someone who likes them well done would be unlikely to enjoy my medium rare steaks and so on. Then some people don't like steaks at all...

Science is not a matter of taste or opinion - I guess that is an important distinction to make when putting forth such an analogy.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

My favorite analogy:

The pennacle of science can be measured up to men climbing mountains and exploring new heights. But, just because someone doesn't "believe" that mountains exists doesn't mean that you should trouble yourself climbing atop them - though it's wonderful exercise, and the people sitting in the valleys get much better echo to hear themselves talk about how mountains can't POSSIBLY exist, it comforts me that no amount of shouting can change the height and might of the mountains.

And,if they scream loud enough, perhaps they will get caught in a avalanche.

 

[malicious_bloke]

Creationism is like taking the cryptic crossword from the newspaper and filling every answer in as JESUS, even where the box is the wrong size and the answer conflicts with previous answers.

Then you send the completed crossword in to the publisher and demand the ,£1000 prize.

What should follow after this is a campaign of stalking perpetrated against the actual winner of the prize: root through his bins, deface his house, publicly try and paint him as a neo-nazi. Meanwhile start a series of civil and criminal lawsuits against the winner and the newspaper trying to claim your prize back. Then make a whiny film explaining how you're being persecuted for your beliefs

 

[Frenger]

Creationism is like taking the cryptic crossword from the newspaper and filling every answer in as JESUS, even where the box is the wrong size and the answer conflicts with previous answers.

Then you send the completed crossword in to the publisher and demand the ,£1000 prize.

What should follow after this is a campaign of stalking perpetrated against the actual winner of the prize: root through his bins, deface his house, publicly try and paint him as a neo-nazi. Meanwhile start a series of civil and criminal lawsuits against the winner and the newspaper trying to claim your prize back. Then make a whiny film explaining how you're being persecuted for your beliefs

This wins the analogy prize.

 

[nemesiss]

how about a caveman vs a certified car mechanic

your car breaks down and you do not know what's wrong with it.
to a caveman it looks like a monster and will most likely bang it with his club and try to kill you too because you are a witch.
a car mechanic can explain what happened, how it happened, how you could have prevented it and how it can be fixed.
if you let it get fixed you can drive off to where you need to go and you most likely want to smack the caveman with the bumper of your car for trying to kill you.

 

[CosmicJoghurt]

Here's an analogy I think fits best:


Let's imagine you give an iPad to an african extremely poor child who has never seen or heard of anything remotely related to industrialized 1st world countries. Quickly, the whole village becomes interested in the tablet - how does it work? How does it magically react to your touch? You show them a drawing app - holy SHIT how does it do that?

Two opinions emerge:

1.- Most of the villagers assume it's some divine creation of nature... nature's gift. It works by magic.
2.- There's one guy who came back from the US, an expert on semiconductor technologies, to the village and knows exactly how it works, i.e what its screen is made of, how it processes information, how it was designed by men.

There you have two entirely different ways of explaining the iPad.
If you give it some thought, you'll probably come to the conclusion that it's much easier to believe that it's some work of divine mother nature - I mean, how could men - mortal men (!) devise such an extraordinary piece of technology? The semiconductor expert says it's the result of many, many years of evolution of electronics... But it's just TOO PERFECT.



Cheers.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

There should be no debate at all.

Creationism is a religious fanatic movement (which has ironically evolved) that has gained so much ground it seems like that there is a debate. But when it comes down to the very basis of this, it is physical evidence against magic.

It's like people wanting to get 'The Silmarillion' taught as history.