You can't compare the Flying Spaghetti Monster to God.

[TruthfulChristian]

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Anyway. Many people whom I have met actually use the Flying Spaghetti Monster argument and take it seriously. Please read the whole thread before commenting.

The difference between the Flying Spahghetti Monster and God is very big. If you look at the effects of modern day society, you'll see that Christianity promotes love and kindness. I don't speak for all Christians, but the majority of Christians that I've met are generally kind.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have any historical evidence backing it up. It's was originally intended for fiction and therefore cannot be compared to something philosophical.

Now I could go on and quote the scripture, but you people won't take it seriously. So I'll end it here.

 

[Prolescum]

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Anyway. Many people whom I have met actually use the Flying Spaghetti Monster argument and take it seriously. Please read the whole thread before commenting.

The difference between the Flying Spahghetti Monster and God is very big. If you look at the effects of modern day society, you'll see that Christianity promotes love and kindness. I don't speak for all Christians, but the majority of Christians that I've met are generally kind.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have any historical evidence backing it up. It's was originally intended for fiction and therefore cannot be compared to something philosophical.

Now I could go on and quote the scripture, but you people won't take it seriously. So I'll end it here.

That's why they etch chapter and verse inside guns...

To be fair, almost every Christian I've met has been pleasant, however, that doesn't mean God exists and the comparison, at least as far as its original intent, any less valid. You're quite missing the reason it exists in the first place; the concept behind it is not to compare it to your God, but to illustrate a point about the teaching of an unsound framework within school science, namely, creationism.

Simple.

 

[Warhawk57]

I would further more add onto proLescum statement by saying that, the " monster" was used to symoblize that there is no evidence for any god to "have being".... Anyone can say that their is historical evidence to support Christianity but it is another thing to support that evididence with facts/ proving a god intervened in time and not just any GOD your Christian GOD.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

You miss the point-
The idea is that the FSM has as much evidence supporting it as your God. Or any God. It's a satire based upon the concept of teachng Creationism in school on the basis that the "Theory of Evolution" is just a Theory - the FSM argument is that to the "Theory of Gravity."
Christians who laugh at it only laugh at themselves. The rest of us just laugh.

 

[Gnomesmusher]

Wow. Talk about the point flying over one's head.

 

[xman]

How can you say such things about His Noodley Greatness. I'm deeply offended. You and your god shall suffer eternal torment if you don't repent. Better do it before it's too late.

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

How can you say such things about His Noodley Greatness. I'm deeply offended. You and your god shall suffer eternal torment if you don't repent. Better do it before it's too late.

DON'T WORRY - THE STALE BEER VOLCANOES AND THE STRIPPERS WITH VDS WILL SURELY MAKE UP FOR THEIR ETERNAL CRIMES AGAINST THE BLESSED APPENDAGES.

 

[obsidianavenger]

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Anyway. Many people whom I have met actually use the Flying Spaghetti Monster argument and take it seriously. Please read the whole thread before commenting.

The difference between the Flying Spahghetti Monster and God is very big. If you look at the effects of modern day society, you'll see that Christianity promotes love and kindness. I don't speak for all Christians, but the majority of Christians that I've met are generally kind.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have any historical evidence backing it up. It's was originally intended for fiction and therefore cannot be compared to something philosophical.

Now I could go on and quote the scripture, but you people won't take it seriously. So I'll end it here.

a book of disputed origins written thousands of years ago puporting to be the word of god is not evidence. i sense the germs of at least 3 fallacies lurking in that paragraph...

 

[mandangalo18]

but you people won't take it seriously. So I'll end it here.

What do you mean...You people??

 

[Aught3]

I's guessing a one hit wonder, but...

You can't compare the Flying Spaghetti Monster to God.

Yes I can and the FSM wins!

 

[Andiferous]

I understand what you are saying, but "God" represents all kinds of different interpretations and philosophies, and the Bible wrought with contradictions that inspire people to pick and choose what bits suit them. How is the personal relationship with God within person's mind, defined by characteristics tailored to that individual's needs, and variant among different believers, different from the fictitious character of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? One person might think God is sending them to battle, the next might see God as telling them to turn the other cheek.

I might point out that it's quite hard to take this post at all seriously when you are asking "us people" to defend the Spaghetti Monster.

 

[RichardMNixon]

almost every Christian I've met has been pleasant, however, that doesn't mean God exists

QFT.
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When you expand the FSM into a broader theological context than just the evo/cretin debate, I see it as simple demonstration of why the burden of proof rests in the positive. No, we can't conclusively, 100% prove Jehovah doesn't exist. However, his followers can't prove the FSM doesn't exist. Last Thursdayism is another fun one that can't be disproven. According to the evidence we have, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is every bit as plausible as Jehovah and no Kalam, Ontological, or any other zany logic trick can prove Jehovah's existence over his Noodliness's. I also eagerly await my eternity sailing the seas as a pirate in the shadow of the great beer volcano.

 

[nasher168]

If you look at the effects of modern day society, you'll see that Christianity promotes love and kindness.

That just makes God's existence more desirable, not more probable.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have any historical evidence backing it up.

Nor does your god.

It's was originally intended for fiction and therefore cannot be compared to something philosophical.

So? Zeus wasn't intended for fiction. Nor was Amun-Ra, Queztlcoatul, Vishnu, Epona or any other god or goddess you don't believe in. Similarly, we don't believe in Yahweh despite the fact that it wasn't originally intended to be fiction.

Now I could go on and quote the scripture, but you people won't take it seriously

No, we won't. You're right. The bible was written by barely-literate, mortal men. It is not worth any consideration.

 

[Ibaapzo]

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Anyway. Many people whom I have met actually use the Flying Spaghetti Monster argument and take it seriously. Please read the whole thread before commenting.

The difference between the Flying Spahghetti Monster and God is very big. If you look at the effects of modern day society, you'll see that Christianity promotes love and kindness. I don't speak for all Christians, but the majority of Christians that I've met are generally kind.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have any historical evidence backing it up. It's was originally intended for fiction and therefore cannot be compared to something philosophical.

Now I could go on and quote the scripture, but you people won't take it seriously. So I'll end it here.

I do not know much about the religion(?) that involves the Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM), but one of your thoughts has fault.

Your evidence for God is the Bible. Most Christians grab for that "proof" initially. You believe that the Bible was scribed by God himself. Some believe that God spoke through or to man in order to write the Bible. Either way works as a deterrent to you.

If the Bible was written by God, there is absolutely no proof of him being the author. There's not much to add to that fact.
If the Bible was written by man, it could be fake, and there is no way to prove one way or the other. Taking into account the failings of the Bible (the countless failings), we must assume that the Bible was written by many men. If God had spoken through all of these men, each similar teaching or happening would be the same, as God, being that there is only one God, would be parallel to one-another.

In that regard, you say that man wrote the story of FSM. Man also wrote the Bible. Therefore, based upon your hypothesis, God is comparable with FSM.

 

[Giliell]

Gosh, I did check out your channel, I made it through the first video and half of the next.
You're one of those scientific illiterates who still think that evolution has anything to do with angular momentum or star formation. Here's some news for you:
Evolution only deals with life once it's here. The theory of evolution doesn't care about how the universe started or how life started.
Come back to the discussion when you've learned the difference between physics and biology.

As for the flying spaghetti monster: The perceived difference only exists in your head. Yes, there's about 2000 years of evidence for christianity. Hinduism is older, are their gods therefore more real? There were atheists in ancient Greece, that simple fact doesn't make atheism any "truer".

And if I look at modern society, a big part of christianity promotes war. Another part promotes killing children as witches. Another part yet is responsible for the spreading of Aids in Africa. Quite a big part of christianity is totally fond of love and marriage, given that people stick to THEIR rules. Oh, yes, and there's Lutherean protestant church. You know, I agree with almost all they're saying about politics and society. Doesn't make their god any realer, just means that they're intelligent liberal minded people.

 

[MRaverz]

It's that TruthfulChristian person cropping up again, I've seen a couple of your videos and you're either a massive troll or completely ignorant of scientific knowledge.

 

[Nyar]

The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have any historical evidence backing it up. It's was originally intended for fiction and therefore cannot be compared to something philosophical.

Every religion has a begining... christianity was not the first one and will not be the last one. there were others like the egypcian that lasted longer than christianity has.

 

[Prolescum]

I hope truthfulchristian comes back to retort.

 

[borrofburi]

Last Thursdayism is another fun one that can't be disproven.

HOW DARE YOU MENTION THE HEATHEN RELIGION JUSTNOWISM IS THE ONLY TRUTH!

According to the evidence we have, the Flying Spaghetti Monster is every bit as plausible as Jehovah and no Kalam, Ontological, or any other zany logic trick can prove Jehovah's existence over his Noodliness's.

I think he's making an argument from antiquity: we have a book that's older than your religion therefore ours is true. Too bad it's just a logical fallacy special case of argument from authority. Actually upon rereading his post his argument is that FSM is wrong because there's no evidence for it, but christianity isn't because christians are nice people?

If you ever come back, TrueChristian, here's why I don't believe in your or any god: a lack of evidence. I highly doubt you'll change my mind solely because I've discussed this with many many smart people and offered up the challenge of providing evidence many times, to be met with things that are simply unacceptable like near death experiences or historical speculation. I suppose if you read this and respond, you'll submit Strobel's historical arguments and I'll have to dig up my writings on precisely why those aren't valid... But maybe, just maybe, even though it's getting more and more unlikely as I meet more and more christians, you'll be the one who actually presents good, valid, and compelling evidence; but I kind of doubt it.

 

[australopithecus]

The Flying Spaghetti Monster does not have any historical evidence backing it up. It's was originally intended for fiction and therefore cannot be compared to something philosophical.

Irony fail.