Why I'm a Deist
We get a few of Creationists in arguing for their God, but I've yet to see any Deists in this forum. I'm all alone here. (hehe) In the Before The Big Bang thread here: http://leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12314 I got a little side tracked with DNA and evolution. Inferno said he would be willing to discuss it in an other thread. So I thought about it and decided to do a Deist thread instead. It will include DNA and evolution, so I hope it will be fun. I know I will be bombarded with awesome questions and rebuttals, and I will try to address them as best I can.
Now on to Deism. I consider myself a Classical Deist. The one that Richard Dawkins describes here:
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I'm agnostic as to Its attributes or motives or even whether It is a deity that deserves worship. (however I'm too lazy to worship anything). Here is another video that describes Deism in a nutshell here:
And here:
Well that is Deism for me and now I will move on as to why I'm a Deist.
I'm too ignorant (one might say I'm ignorant when it comes to DNA and evolution as well) to make an argument for Deism based on the beginning of the the universe, however, I'm taking the effort to learn, buy reading books and asking questions of knowledgeable people like hackenslash & surreptitious57.
Okay, let me start out with DNA. I will be talking about the central dogma of molecular biology
I will be borrowing from this website for some of the reason why I think DNA has design implications.
The Central Dogma: DNA Encodes RNA; RNA Encodes Protein
The genetic code is degenerate because 64 codons encode only 22 amino acids.
The genetic code is universal because it is the same among all organisms.
Replication is the process of copying a molecule of DNA.
Transcription is the process of converting a specific sequence of DNA into RNA.
Translation is the process where a ribosome decodes mRNA into a protein.
Source: Boundless. “The Central Dogma: DNA Encodes RNA; RNA Encodes Protein.” Boundless Biology. Boundless, 20 Jan. 2015. Retrieved 15 Apr. 2015 from
The above in my opinion is freakin awesome. That is what DNA does, it encodes over and over again in every organism know to humans.
The genetic code for translating each nucleotide triplet (codon) in mRNA into an amino acid or a translation termination signal.
Here is a quote from the website:
This may be an argument from incredulity, but I find it hard to believe that DNA just formed from a primordial soup without some help from a higher power. It is the most amazing molecule. As the quote says, “Because the information stored in DNA...”. It seems to me that information has to come from a intelligent mind. While I do believe DNA and all life evolved by natural means, that does not mean it didn't have help. This image shows the awesomeness of DNA:
Here the article talks about transcription and translation. Again, this takes on the appearance of design.
This is my argument so far for DNA taking on the appearance of design. I do not believe that it is just a Teleonomic design, although Teleonomy played a big part in the appearance of life as we see it and the life that came before us. I'm a little tired right now and I will post my reasons for evolution to be designed as well at a later time. Have fun debunking my reasoning skills. hehe
We get a few of Creationists in arguing for their God, but I've yet to see any Deists in this forum. I'm all alone here. (hehe) In the Before The Big Bang thread here: http://leagueofreason.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12314 I got a little side tracked with DNA and evolution. Inferno said he would be willing to discuss it in an other thread. So I thought about it and decided to do a Deist thread instead. It will include DNA and evolution, so I hope it will be fun. I know I will be bombarded with awesome questions and rebuttals, and I will try to address them as best I can.
Now on to Deism. I consider myself a Classical Deist. The one that Richard Dawkins describes here:
.
I'm agnostic as to Its attributes or motives or even whether It is a deity that deserves worship. (however I'm too lazy to worship anything). Here is another video that describes Deism in a nutshell here:
And here:
Well that is Deism for me and now I will move on as to why I'm a Deist.
I'm too ignorant (one might say I'm ignorant when it comes to DNA and evolution as well) to make an argument for Deism based on the beginning of the the universe, however, I'm taking the effort to learn, buy reading books and asking questions of knowledgeable people like hackenslash & surreptitious57.
Okay, let me start out with DNA. I will be talking about the central dogma of molecular biology
I will be borrowing from this website for some of the reason why I think DNA has design implications.
The Central Dogma: DNA Encodes RNA; RNA Encodes Protein
The genetic code is degenerate because 64 codons encode only 22 amino acids.
The genetic code is universal because it is the same among all organisms.
Replication is the process of copying a molecule of DNA.
Transcription is the process of converting a specific sequence of DNA into RNA.
Translation is the process where a ribosome decodes mRNA into a protein.
Source: Boundless. “The Central Dogma: DNA Encodes RNA; RNA Encodes Protein.” Boundless Biology. Boundless, 20 Jan. 2015. Retrieved 15 Apr. 2015 from
The above in my opinion is freakin awesome. That is what DNA does, it encodes over and over again in every organism know to humans.
The genetic code for translating each nucleotide triplet (codon) in mRNA into an amino acid or a translation termination signal.
Here is a quote from the website:
Because the information stored in DNA is so central to cellular function, the cell keeps the DNA protected and copies it in the form of RNA. An enzyme adds one nucleotide to the mRNA strand for every nucleotide it reads in the DNA strand. The translation of this information to a protein is more complex because three mRNA nucleotides correspond to one amino acid in the polypeptide sequence.
This may be an argument from incredulity, but I find it hard to believe that DNA just formed from a primordial soup without some help from a higher power. It is the most amazing molecule. As the quote says, “Because the information stored in DNA...”. It seems to me that information has to come from a intelligent mind. While I do believe DNA and all life evolved by natural means, that does not mean it didn't have help. This image shows the awesomeness of DNA:
Here the article talks about transcription and translation. Again, this takes on the appearance of design.
Transcription is the process of creating a complementary RNA copy of a sequence of DNA. Both RNA and DNA are nucleic acids, which use base pairs of nucleotides as a complementary language that enzymes can convert back and forth from DNA to RNA. During transcription, a DNA sequence is read by RNA polymerase, which produces a complementary, antiparallel RNA strand. Unlike DNA replication, transcription results in an RNA complement that substitutes the RNA uracil (U) in all instances where the DNA thymine (T) would have occurred. Transcription is the first step in gene expression. The stretch of DNA transcribed into an RNA molecule is called a transcript. Some transcripts are used as structural or regulatory RNAs, and others encode one or more proteins. If the transcribed gene encodes a protein, the result of transcription is messenger RNA (mRNA), which will then be used to create that protein in the process of translation.
This is my argument so far for DNA taking on the appearance of design. I do not believe that it is just a Teleonomic design, although Teleonomy played a big part in the appearance of life as we see it and the life that came before us. I'm a little tired right now and I will post my reasons for evolution to be designed as well at a later time. Have fun debunking my reasoning skills. hehe