What Is God?

[MachineSp1rit]

I'm really interested in this one, i'm asking for a definition, not just random words, anybody know it?

ThisWasTriumph said that if god can be explained scientifically he won't be a god anymore. Don't know any creationist forum, if i knew i would have asked there(link one if you can). If you think that you can formulate a definition please write it, and try it to cover everything, imagine that you have to say some rule from physics.

 

[Pulsar]

By coincidence, I've just posted a similar topic.
What are Sin, soul, spirit, heaven, and God? Nobody knows

 

[MachineSp1rit]

hehe you were couple minutes late =))

anyways i'm interested in God only. when god stops being a god..

 

[desertedcities]

God doesn't even know what god is.

 

[Pulsar]

God doesn't even know what god is.

Hmmm, would God ask himself "Where do I come from? What am I doing here? Is there a GOD?"

 

[Ozymandyus]

God has many different definitions/understandings of course.

The Catholic God that I was raised with was a God that:
1. Is Supernatural: beyond this universe with all its laws, matter and energy, has no body. He is not bound by the Laws of the Universe.
2. Created the Laws of the Universe, setting everything into motion
3. Is the source of all Goodness, which basically radiates out from Him in heaven (some extra-dimensional space).
4. Can be personally accessed, you can be 'channel' of his goodness by coming to an understanding of Him.
5. Has interacted with the world at a few various points in its history to try to fix problems our free will has caused.

Of these, I find the last two easy to disprove, but the first two or three... not really falsifiable. The first two would probably considered Deistic attributes of God, and are the foundation of most God conceptions. The last three are particular to Catholics (and some others of course).

 

[desertedcities]

Hmmm, would God ask himself "Where do I come from? What am I doing here? Is there a GOD?"

I think he would have to, even if he was omniscient, the 'creator stream' can't end at one after all. Something had to create god. Heh.

 

[Ozymandyus]

I was thinking recently that if the sum of all universes is infinite (meaning our observable universe is just a small part of everything that is/was, either in a multiverse or expanding universe collapsing universe model, or unperceived extra dimensional model) that it would be inevitable for a creature to evolve that had ultimate power over everything we know. Just imagining ourselves if we manage to stay on course for the next billion years, the possibilities for us being able create a universe with all kinds of self-aware beings in it seem very good. Hell, it won't even take that long if you wanted to do it with hardware and software.

Perhaps we will create computers/software that will investigate the nature of tiny particles that we can't interact with. We will use quantum computing to build them, and their makeup will be all these tiny particles we barely understand. And their own makeup and entire universe will be confined to quantum scales. Every second that they exist in our time will seem like an eternity in theirs, as they operate at trillions of commands a second, and our commands to the computer will appear to only come sporadically, from some inconceivable extradimensional space.

AHHH my brain!

 

[Zylstra]

Where's that video "the thing that created all things and needs no creator..."

 

[Mafiaaffe]

Ask Chuck Norris he created him.

 

[buzzausa]

Santa Claus for grown-ups?

 

[GoodKat]

I was thinking recently that if the sum of all universes is infinite (meaning our observable universe is just a small part of everything that is/was, either in a multiverse or expanding universe collapsing universe model, or unperceived extra dimensional model) that it would be inevitable for a creature to evolve that had ultimate power over everything we know. Just imagining ourselves if we manage to stay on course for the next billion years, the possibilities for us being able create a universe with all kinds of self-aware beings in it seem very good. Hell, it won't even take that long if you wanted to do it with hardware and software.

Lol, maybe we will also interact with those self-aware beings and reward them for doing our bidding.

 

[Th1sWasATriumph]

I'm really interested in this one, i'm asking for a definition, not just random words, anybody know it?

ThisWasTriumph said that if god can be explained scientifically he won't be a god anymore. Don't know any creationist forum, if i knew i would have asked there(link one if you can). If you think that you can formulate a definition please write it, and try it to cover everything, imagine that you have to say some rule from physics.

My point was that anything supernatural ceases to be supernatural once it can be quantified and explained scientifically - just another natural phenomena. The whole "magic is indistinguishable from sufficiently advanced technology" thing.

 

[MachineSp1rit]

we're getting off the topic but i got this thought.

Take the some kind of GTA video game, if our science was good enough, we could have created the virtual characters, who would have been similar to humans. behave like us, for example, if they see a car coming they would try to evade it, if they encountered some problem they would have thought on solving it, so if we were able to put all of our characteristics into those virtual people, give them intellect and also make the laws of physics bit different in their virtual world, (the rules would be the same, since their world would be based on the magnetic links in the computer, or whatever, don't really care about those details right now). WE would be Gods for them, i mean, we would have completed the first two laws.

we would be beyond their universe and partly beyond their understanding about laws of physics, no time no "before" no nothing. and they would never get out of the computer.

1. Is Supernatural: beyond this universe with all its laws, matter and energy, has no body. He is not bound by the Laws of the Universe.

and

2. Created the Laws of the Universe, setting everything into motion

i know it sounds bit crude, but you got the point.