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War with Russia?

TheGAM

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arg-fallbackName="TheGAM"/>
Ucranium hurts then Crymeariver!


That was just a simple wordplay action on Crimea and Ukraine. What you are about to read is what the larger media outlets won’t tell you. Why does the US actually care about a country of little to no significance to us? Maybe because people like Zbigniew Brzezinski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski) from Warsaw Poland no less would love to see the remnants of the old Soviet Empire fall one by one (Progressively) to the European Union. Or the greater IMF the US is desperate to keep USD hegemony in place. Not for the same reasons that I hope you embrace though. You see it is the weapon of global destruction. The USD’s place in the world has brought both great prosperity and great poverty.
A little history here on the petrodollar how about that? I bet you thought it was strong because of the American work ethic! Maybe our great education system! Don’t worry Common core will fix the education system. But I digress. I believe every war since the Bosnian conflict has been over IMF hegemony. We have been encircling Russia and China and their “buddies” for a long time. If we could only get them to surrender their nukes it would all be over! Let me tell you how this ends. One of two ways I hope. The other is thermonuclear war.
#1.The whole world bows to the USD and then a new currency is born “levelling” the playing field.
#2. The USD and European currencies collapse. A catastrophic depression and war follow close after that. You see someone will have to be blamed other than the Politicians and bankers. They can never be wrong.

So says,
The GAM
 
arg-fallbackName="Inferno"/>
Economics and monetary stability are a lot more complicated than that. You give no reason why you think any of that will happen nor do you sufficiently explain how it will happen. Let me explain what a real possibility will be:

We've had two bubbles: The IT Bubble and the housing bubble. Currently, the bond bubble is building. If that crashes, both the US and Russia will suffer quite a bit. That will also be the test for China: Is it strong enough or not?
 
arg-fallbackName="Prolescum"/>
Firstly, welcome to the forum, TheGAM :)

TheGAM said:
Ucranium hurts then Crymeariver!


That was just a simple wordplay action on Crimea and Ukraine.

Indeed.
What you are about to read is what the larger media outlets won’t tell you.

Do you mean news organisations? One wouldn't expect the more reputable among them to speculate, and the others, well, they're barely of any note outside their paltry demographics so who really gives a fuck what they say or do? If you mean something else by the uncomfortably nebulous "media outlets", I'm not sure I understand.
Why does the US actually care about a country of little to no significance to us?

I can't speak from a first-person perspective as I'm not American (this is an international board ;) ), but I can assure you that no country is really of little to no significance to another; we all have the same stellar address for a start.

Honestly, this comes across as one of those chronically ignorant, arrogant pronouncements that only really Americans vomit across the web. Perhaps considering who you may be talking to would be wise.
Maybe because people like Zbigniew Brzezinski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski) from Warsaw Poland no less would love to see the remnants of the old Soviet Empire fall one by one (Progressively) to the European Union.

Fall to the EU? Is that really what you mean? If it is, you'll have to explain that one.
Or the greater IMF the US is desperate to keep USD hegemony in place. Not for the same reasons that I hope you embrace though. You see it is the weapon of global destruction. The USD’s place in the world has brought both great prosperity and great poverty.

A British invention, I'm sure. Are you a Freeman-on-the-land?
A little history here on the petrodollar how about that?

If you must.
I bet you thought it was strong because of the American work ethic!

What was? The petrodollar? Surely the word itself disputes that notion?
Maybe our great education system!

I thripple a ding-gore froppe, wobble?
Don’t worry Common core will fix the education system.

Presumably that means something to Americans...
But I digress.

Somewhat.
I believe every war since the Bosnian conflict has been over IMF hegemony.

You are allowed to have beliefs; can you justify them at all?
We have been encircling Russia and China and their “buddies” for a long time.

Glad you were able to procure the services of Rambo for so long a period.
If we could only get them to surrender their nukes it would all be over!

Yes, none save for the Pakistani, Indian, Israeli, French, and the British arsenals should remain!
Let me tell you how this ends.

Oh, go on then.
One of two ways I hope.

Hope? Your last sentence was so certain... Let's see both, then.
#1.The whole world bows to the USD and then a new currency is born “levelling” the playing field.

Getting Americans to use anything other than the USD would be hard enough; you seriously think the rest of the world would acquiesce on the say so of the US? It has got bells on.

What's with the quotes surrounding levelling?
#2. The USD and European currencies collapse.

Because...?
A catastrophic depression and war follow close after that.

Wow, that escalated FAST!
The other is thermonuclear war.

Ooh, a surprise third option... I do love a stupefying false trichotomy.
You see someone will have to be blamed other than the Politicians and bankers.

The Ukrainians?
They can never be wrong.

According to whom?
 
arg-fallbackName="australopithecus"/>
You'd think the .co.uk in the URL would indicate this site may not be predominantly American re: netizens.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,

Or a check on the OP's IP address would geo-locate him.

As for likely scenarios...

The IMF and World Bank are - despite their names - American-centric. It's highly unlikely that the IMF and US are at odds over the dollar's ascendancy.

China's Renmimbi will, I believe, become the central Eastern bloc currency - notwithstanding the Yen's current position. This will strengthen its growing political power in the region and the world.

With Putin's stated intent to "rebuild Soviet Russia", the likely problems will occur between the EU and Russia.

As the latter is technically part of Europe, the contention over former satellite states of the Soviet Union may result in some form of economic conflict, at the least - either the EU will "lose" parts of these states due to large Russian populations, as with the Crimea, or the EU will become part of a rebuilt, "new" Soviet Russia/Union or the EU will gain (parts of) these satellite states leaving Russia on it's own.

The question becomes how the euro itself will fare in these cases? - and on the way to whichever scenario results?

Will the EU become a federal union, thus gaining the political unity it lacks, solidifying the euro's position? Or will the EU admit its mistake and return to the previous national currencies where the euro is a "soft" currency representing the average of the basket of European currencies?

Will the rouble become stronger or weaker?

Kindest regards,

James
 
arg-fallbackName="keenidiot"/>
For the rest of the world, common core is anew teaching style for math that seeks to make it more intuitive.
The idea is to try to teach how people usually work out math problems in their head, by simplifying before adding and subtracting numbers. Like subtracting twenty five from fifty, so you add five to twenty five to make thirty, subtract thirty from fifty which gives you twenty, then add five to give you the answer of twenty five. Ideally you are doing more here than simply memorizing tables, and actively figuring out how to solve the problems.
Conservatives are against it because it's different and to confusing to them.
 
arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,
keenidiot said:
For the rest of the world, common core is anew teaching style for math that seeks to make it more intuitive.
The idea is to try to teach how people usually work out math problems in their head, by simplifying before adding and subtracting numbers. Like subtracting twenty five from fifty, so you add five to twenty five to make thirty, subtract thirty from fifty which gives you twenty, then add five to give you the answer of twenty five. Ideally you are doing more here than simply memorizing tables, and actively figuring out how to solve the problems.
Conservatives are against it because it's different and to confusing to them.
With all due respect, keenidiot, that's not the case.

Common Core is the new national standard of curriculum implemented throughout the US.

Kindest regards,

James
 
arg-fallbackName="keenidiot"/>
Well, no respect deserved on my part then. I saw the common core discussed specifically in reference to mathematics, in response to conservative criticism of the math.
I've no excuse, I live in this country.
 
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