UFO: footages, disclosure, archaeological anomalies

[mirandansa]

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Formal Studies & Talks

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FOOTAGES

NASA

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Others

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DISCLOSURE

The Military-Industrial Complex

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Suppression

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The Disclosure Movement

Conferences

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The Vatican

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ARCHAEOLOGICAL ANOMALIES

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Ancient Astronauts
OOPARTS (out-of-place artifacts)

Technology: Masonry:

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Underwater Ruins:

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Structures & Geometry:

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Symbolism: Flower of Life:

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UFOs:

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Creatures:

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Documentaries: Ancient Aliens season 1 (2010):

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Documentaries: Ancient Aliens season 2 (2010):

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[ArthurWilborn]

In a way, this is tragic. You've moved from your own brand of highly intelligent and unique crazy to garden-variety conspiracy theorist crazy. Give me some alien feces or GTFO.

 

[MRaverz]

Unidentified doesn't not equal alien.

 

[Master_Ghost_Knight]

I haven't really finished looking into your post, I will compile a full answer later when I have more time.
This aren't aline stuff, shit I even know what that is. But I will let you in the dark and see if you can figure out for yourself.

 

[mirandansa]

In a way, this is tragic. You've moved from your own brand of highly intelligent and unique crazy to garden-variety conspiracy theorist crazy.

If you read my post, you'll notice that i'm actually trying to look for non-alien explanations. If you can offer some, please do.

You call it "crazy" without actually addressing with substantial criticism what you think is crazy.

Give me some alien feces or GTFO.

UFO could be other than extraterrestrial in origin.

 

[mirandansa]

I haven't really finished looking into your post, I will compile a full answer later when I have more time.
This aren't aline stuff, shit I even know what that is. But I will let you in the dark and see if you can figure out for yourself.

Please, i'm already aware that these could be space debris. I wrote so right before the clip. Some of the pictures are officially listed as space debris. But some aren't, like this one:

It has lights including what appears to be a jet burn. The body shape looks artificial. This could be a human-made aircraft or satellite or some thing from the STS-088's assembly of the Zarya module to the International Space Station. But i haven't seen such a human-made aircraft or satellite, and i'm not sure what component of the ISS or the shuttle mission this could be.

If you know what this is, then tell me and i'll add that explanation to the post.

 

[MRaverz]

I haven't really finished looking into your post, I will compile a full answer later when I have more time.
This aren't aline stuff, shit I even know what that is. But I will let you in the dark and see if you can figure out for yourself.

Please, i'm already aware that these could be space debris. I wrote so right before the clip. Some of the pictures are officially listed as space debris. But some aren't, like this one:

It has lights including what appears to be a jet burn. The body shape looks artificial. This could be a human-made aircraft or satellite or some thing from the STS-088's assembly of the Zarya module to the International Space Station. But i haven't seen such a human-made aircraft or satellite, and i'm not sure what component of the ISS or the shuttle mission this could be.

If you know what this is, then tell me and i'll add that explanation to the post.

Looks like it's heating up and igniting due to it falling through the atmosphere to me. Plus the shape looks like any old piece of scrap metal.

 

[Your Funny Uncle]

Looks like it's heating up and igniting due to it falling through the atmosphere to me. Plus the shape looks like any old piece of scrap metal.

It looks to me like the type of artefact you see in a photo when light is reflecting off something in an otherwise not so bright image. It could be sunlight reflecting off exposed metal.

 

[mirandansa]

Looks like it's heating up and igniting due to it falling through the atmosphere to me.

Atmospheric reentry of an unprotected piece of metal should look like this:

Plus the shape looks like any old piece of scrap metal.

Why would an old piece of scrap metal have light-emitting devices?

And i remind you that's from 1998. Compare that one

to this one:

These photos were taken in Ontario, Canada, in September 2009. It looks quite similar to the 1998 one, and it's clearly within the Karman line. It could be a fake. But if it isn't a fake and is identical to the one from 11 years ago, how could a piece of scrap metal have stayed above the Earth against its gravity for a decade and survived atmospheric reentry when it came to this below-Karman altitude?

More detail here.

 

[Your Funny Uncle]

Look! The water is filled with light-emitting devices!

 

[MRaverz]

Look! The water is filled with light-emitting devices!

This. :lol:

 

[mirandansa]

Look! The water is filled with light-emitting devices!

I said "light-emitting" because it was less than easy for me to imagine a reflection this bright with the angle of the Sun indicated by the shades of the cloud.

Reflections are a possibility, yes. This one clearly has a reflection:

But this one, i'm not so sure:

 

[Your Funny Uncle]

I said "light-emitting" because it was less than easy for me to imagine a reflection this bright with the angle of the Sun indicated by the shades of the cloud.

In the photo you show there is no detail visible so it's tough to infer the shape of the object in three dimensions. it looks to me though like a curved metallic sheet that is in shade on the "outer" side which is facing the viewer, and hence by extension being lit on the other side. It seems to me as though there might be a couple of twisted bits of metal at the extremities, causing the light to reflect twice and head towards the camera. I'm not saying that this is right, but is it truly less plausible than aliens?

 

[mirandansa]

I said "light-emitting" because it was less than easy for me to imagine a reflection this bright with the angle of the Sun indicated by the shades of the cloud.

In the photo you show there is no detail visible so it's tough to infer the shape of the object in three dimensions. it looks to me though like a curved metallic sheet that is in shade on the "outer" side which is facing the viewer, and hence by extension being lit on the other side. It seems to me as though there might be a couple of twisted bits of metal at the extremities, causing the light to reflect twice and head towards the camera.

From different angles:

The numbers represent the actual order of shooting. Notice how the shape changed as it approached the Earth. I myself first thought this was just a scrap metal with parts coming off. But upon carefully comparing them from 66 to 69, i realised the morphing process wasn't so straightforward. And i can't see any of the supposedly missing detached parts around in the first place. A possibility i can think of within the "scrap metal" hypothesis is that the parts were somehow swinging so that in some pictures they are hidden behind and in some others they are visible.

I'm not saying that this is right, but is it truly less plausible than aliens?

I'm not saying this must be an alien spacecraft.

 

[mirandansa]

Chinese lanterns are one of the possible identities of UFO:

 

[Anachronous Rex]

Mirandansa, while I swore an oath to Ahriman never again to get involved in one of these, I am compelled to speak up:

Once again, this OP is simplistically too much for us to discuss intelligibly, you need to narrow down the topic and then stick to it. As it stands it is unclear what you are arguing, or even if you arguing.

Moreover, a comprehensive rebuttal of all these claims would necessarily run at tremendous length, as it would require at least the equivalent depth of the OP for each of the claims presented therein. If I wanted to write a dissertation, I'd go get myself another degree.

 

[Master_Ghost_Knight]

Please, i'm already aware that these could be space debris. I wrote so right before the clip. Some of the pictures are officially listed as space debris. But some aren't, like this one:

It has lights including what appears to be a jet burn. The body shape looks artificial. This could be a human-made aircraft or satellite or some thing from the STS-088's assembly of the Zarya module to the International Space Station. But i haven't seen such a human-made aircraft or satellite, and i'm not sure what component of the ISS or the shuttle mission this could be.

If you know what this is, then tell me and i'll add that explanation to the post.

That is the sun reflection on what apears to be a plate of the external shielding of a disrupted satelite. You can't recognise it because you are not used to see that stuff in pieces.

The numbers represent the actual order of shooting. Notice how the shape changed as it approached the Earth. I myself first thought this was just a scrap metal with parts coming off. But upon carefully comparing them from 66 to 69, i realised the morphing process wasn't so straightforward. And i can't see any of the supposedly missing detached parts around in the first place. A possibility i can think of within the "scrap metal" hypothesis is that the parts were somehow swinging so that in some pictures they are hidden behind and in some others they are visible.

I am not impressed, because the object rotates (very irregular) and it is probably not rigid either.

I'm not saying that this is right, but is it truly less plausible than aliens?

I'm not saying this must be an alien spacecraft.

That is not what you are saying but definitively what you are implying, if you claim otherwise you are lying.

 

[Master_Ghost_Knight]

This is best done by riping each sugestion one by one, because you have presented several diffrent artifacts thst you have atributed to be the same thing (they aren't and assuming otherwise will lead you to confusion).
First the easy ones, talk shows, no good, I don't need to tell you why but in case it sliped your mind people can claim all kinds of crazy shit and that doesn't make any of it true you even presented cases where it was clear that they were bold face lying.
Secondly the live footages, some of them are clear fabrications, others may genuinly be UFO's, for the guy who thinks those are aliens that is. I remind you that UFO stands for "UNKNOWN Flying Object", emphasis on the "unknown" part (objects they all are, the flying part not so much true, because most of them don't qualify as flying like Venus or baloons, not on what you have presented), I have been able to indentify a big chunk of what you have presented as denbree the moment I saw them and it perplexes me how can anyone squigle their eyes so much in order to be able to seen in something that vaguely resembles to be capable of any form of flight other than free fall. To claim that is some form of object intentonaly made to be that way is a long step to take from the fact that you don't know what it is in the first place, much less aliens.
Thirdly the archeological parts are simply paridolia, we are seeing things into the picture that aren't there because we come from a more advance civilization then when those pieces of art were made. I should put them into context to help you out that most of those pieces of art are religious in nature, and it was believed in those times that Gods (or rather God) and dead people literaly lived in the sky. In that context take a look again at them and tell me what you see.
Or similarities to cirimonial pieces are just that, similarities.
And last but not least, even you yourself know that this is bullshit, I can think of reasons why you would keep this charade dispite that, but your personal matters doesn't concern others, however I must say that such actitude is not healthy for you. You can do the puzzling job of figuring out where each criticism goes in which video, but you already know that because probably you have raised the same objections yourself.

 

[dav37777777]

sure aleins may exist, but not in these neck of the woods. not yet anyways and probably not ever. when i see aliens are here than i will believe aliens are here. the same goes for jesus and sasquatch.

 

[ArthurWilborn]

The tether video, easy. Those disc shapes are distortion pattens caused by objects - almost certainly debris from the broken machinery - being out of focus to the camera. The pulsation is due to variable reflection from the objects rotating. The motion I'm not sure about, but given it's incredibly obvious what the objects are it's safe to say that something was influencing their motion relative to the camera; perhaps minor outgassing from the shuttle.

The Pheonix Lights

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4041

"The Phoenix Lights were flares. Deal with it."