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Trans Athletes and Sports

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Correction:
You believe there is a god, despite any physical evidence. The person on the women's swim team was physically male at birth, despite being, in all other ways, female.

Maybe that's just another of your god's mistakes.
 
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There is a God
Oh really? And when was this discovered? Feel free to start a new thread where you can present your evidence for this. Or otherwise just feel free to stop making silly assertions.
 
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I think the fact that the same people who say there is no god also now say that men are women, demonstrates just how far atheists now have to move themselves from outside the scope of reality in order to maintain their worldview.

Years ago, anti-creationists used to try to hide their views on abiogenesis. They would say "oh this is god of the gaps stuff, we dont talk about that! we talk about evolution and evolution doesnt deal with abiogenesis. bla bla bla" Now in recent years they have been forced to admit they actually believe that higher biological functions ,such as conciousness, arise naturally from a theoretical point in time where there was nothing but rocks floating around in outerspace. This belief is not the result of scientific achievement(it's what they always believed). Its what you must believe to be an atheist and is another example of needing to maintain a position beyond any scope of reality.
 
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So when you have 2 opposes views and you are trying to decide which one is correct, I think the view which leads away from absurdities and gives us a better understanding of the world we live in must be the correct one. That is the evidence.
 
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None of that waffle is evidence of anything. Please stop trolling. This thread has nothing to do with imaginary friends. Stay on topic or, as always, you have the freedom to create a new thread where you can present your evidence for various magical floaty invisible undetectable and obviously nonsense beings there.
 
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I don't think transmen in male sports are discussed as much - most likely because they don't see transmen as a 'threat' to the competition in males sports. Males have a physical advantage over females without question, so the concern has largely been on that.

As far as studies go, here's two I know about:

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/11/577
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7846503/

They both come to similar conclusions that transwomen do retain their physical advantage over females after hormonal treatment. The longest study was over the course of two years - at the end of which it was found that trans women still retained a speed advantage.
 
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