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Top 10 Insane Unexplained Scientific Discoveries
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... Yet.
Although things like "you need to reverse time four times to get a molecule back to it's original state" sounds as wooish as it gets and talking about cold fusion like it was a valid option at this moment makes me think that the list isn't all that scientifically accurate.
Visaki said:
How do you figure that Hastatic Order is not scientific? I Fucking Love Science seems to be a creditable website. Why would they post something that is not true? Surely they watched the video before linking it.
About dark energy, I have a “theory”, maybe “Dark Energy” doesn’t exist, and visible galaxies are moving away from each other simply because far away (beyond) the visible spectrum there are supermassive objects that are causing a gravitational force.
These massive objects can be super massive galaxies, or maybe just dust.
Since these are super massive objects, then they have a strong gravitational force, from our perspective distance galaxies are closer to these supermassive objects therefore the force of gravity that these massive objects produce is much stronger in distant galaxies than in galaxies that are near the milky way.
This would be a model of the universe that I am proposing.
Yellow= our galaxy and the local group
Blue = distant galaxies
Black = super massive objects, with strong gravitational force.
The reason I like this model is because it doesn’t postulate hypothetical forces like dark energy, gravity form a distant point is causing the redshift that we observe.
These massive objects can be super massive galaxies, or maybe just dust.
Since these are super massive objects, then they have a strong gravitational force, from our perspective distance galaxies are closer to these supermassive objects therefore the force of gravity that these massive objects produce is much stronger in distant galaxies than in galaxies that are near the milky way.
This would be a model of the universe that I am proposing.
Yellow= our galaxy and the local group
Blue = distant galaxies
Black = super massive objects, with strong gravitational force.
The reason I like this model is because it doesn’t postulate hypothetical forces like dark energy, gravity form a distant point is causing the redshift that we observe.
SpecialFrog
New Member
There have been attempts to replace dark energy with something based on gravity but as far as I know, no such model has yet fit the data.leroy said:About dark energy, I have a “theory”, maybe “Dark Energy” doesn’t exist, and visible galaxies are moving away from each other simply because far away (beyond) the visible spectrum there are supermassive objects that are causing a gravitational force.
These massive objects can be super massive galaxies, or maybe just dust.
Since these are super massive objects, then they have a strong gravitational force, from our perspective distance galaxies are closer to these supermassive objects therefore the force of gravity that these massive objects produce is much stronger in distant galaxies than in galaxies that are near the milky way.
This would be a model of the universe that I am proposing.
Yellow= our galaxy and the local group
Blue = distant galaxies
Black = super massive objects, with strong gravitational force.
The reason I like this model is because it doesn’t postulate hypothetical forces like dark energy, gravity form a distant point is causing the redshift that we observe.
While parsimony favours fewer assumptions if both explanations fit the evidence, if the simpler model doesn't fit the evidence it can hardly be said to be superior.
Besides, I'm not sure what you are postulating is less of a hypothetical.
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leroy said:About dark energy, I have a “theory”, maybe “Dark Energy” doesn’t exist, and visible galaxies are moving away from each other simply because far away (beyond) the visible spectrum there are supermassive objects that are causing a gravitational force.
These massive objects can be super massive galaxies, or maybe just dust.
Since these are super massive objects, then they have a strong gravitational force, from our perspective distance galaxies are closer to these supermassive objects therefore the force of gravity that these massive objects produce is much stronger in distant galaxies than in galaxies that are near the milky way.
This would be a model of the universe that I am proposing.
Yellow= our galaxy and the local group
Blue = distant galaxies
Black = super massive objects, with strong gravitational force.
The reason I like this model is because it doesn’t postulate hypothetical forces like dark energy, gravity form a distant point is causing the redshift that we observe.
This "model" doesn't work, because of the inverse-square fall-off. If dark energy were caused by attraction to an outside body, the attraction wouldn't be the same everywhere, but would be greater at the outer edges of observability.
BTW, dark energy isn't hypothetical. You're mistaking the name we give to the effect (which is observed) for a proposed explanation.
SpeedOfSound
New Member
I got as far as the placebo effect and had to turn it off. I think the greatest mystery is that some people think the placebo effect is a great mystery.tuxbox said:
Dragan Glas
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Greetings,
Welcome to LoR, SpeedOfSound!
Kindest regards,
James
Welcome to LoR, SpeedOfSound!
Kindest regards,
James
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SpeedOfSound said:
Yo!
Welcome, my friend.
Peeps, SoS is a survivor of the Night of the Long Knives, and a good friend of ours.
surreptitious57
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For leroys hypothetical model to be true the super massive galaxies would have to exist uniformly not just in one region of space as this universe is
expanding beyond light speed in all directions. Also if this universe was being pulled in all directions by such galaxies then why would it only be the
space between its own galaxies which was expanding and not the galaxies too ? If the force of gravity was that strong then it would pull everything
towards it. The fact that this is not happening indicates that an equivalent force is pushing in the opposite direction. That force is dark matter which
does exist even though it is not known what it is. That is because although it is invisible so can not be observed it is not impervious to gravity since
nothing in the known universe is. For gravity is literally universal and leaks into other dimensions which would explain why it is significantly weaker
than the other three fundamental forces. Even so it is next to impossible to trap any dark matter so can not at this point in time be examined in any
detail to determine exactly what it is. It is similar to radiation in that it can pass through solid matter though unlike radiation it leaves no observable
physical trace. But it appears to be an invisible force responsible for stopping matter from expanding and maybe even atomising by acting against
the counter force of dark energy pushing in the opposite direction. Like pressure and gravity that work against each other after nuclear fusion has
finally been exhausted in a dying star. Which is why dark energy can expand the space between galaxies but not the actual galaxies them selves
expanding beyond light speed in all directions. Also if this universe was being pulled in all directions by such galaxies then why would it only be the
space between its own galaxies which was expanding and not the galaxies too ? If the force of gravity was that strong then it would pull everything
towards it. The fact that this is not happening indicates that an equivalent force is pushing in the opposite direction. That force is dark matter which
does exist even though it is not known what it is. That is because although it is invisible so can not be observed it is not impervious to gravity since
nothing in the known universe is. For gravity is literally universal and leaks into other dimensions which would explain why it is significantly weaker
than the other three fundamental forces. Even so it is next to impossible to trap any dark matter so can not at this point in time be examined in any
detail to determine exactly what it is. It is similar to radiation in that it can pass through solid matter though unlike radiation it leaves no observable
physical trace. But it appears to be an invisible force responsible for stopping matter from expanding and maybe even atomising by acting against
the counter force of dark energy pushing in the opposite direction. Like pressure and gravity that work against each other after nuclear fusion has
finally been exhausted in a dying star. Which is why dark energy can expand the space between galaxies but not the actual galaxies them selves