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The UK joins the bombing campaign in Syria

Laurens

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Do you support the move?

I'm not a pacifist by any means but I don't think bombing ISIS is the way forward.

The first reason is that it is highly probable that people will become radicalised if we drop bombs on them. A highly undesirable outcome.

Secondly I do not think we have adequate non radical support on the ground.

Thirdly I think adding our bombs to an existing campaign will have minimal impact, and possibly have the negative consequences of making us more of a target for terrorist attacks. Given that a lot of people in this country are struggling with poverty under the tories I think it is a huge waste of resources to use funds to bomb people.

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arg-fallbackName="SpecialFrog"/>
Providing air support to the Kurdish militias and the Iraqi forces fighting Daesh seems reasonably defensible. Both groups are taking territory from Daesh successfully and air support hampers Daesh's ability to move troops and weapons around.

However, I am unconvinced that bombing is an effective way to end the civil war, particularly when the various countries involved all seem to want to bomb someone different. The Saudi's see Assad as the main enemy and are inclined to push European states in that direction. Turkey is largely bombing the Kurds. Russia is bombing Assad's enemies (including Daesh). And I believe Assad is still the one killing most of the civilians at this point.

Who should the West bomb and what exactly is it supposed to accomplish? What end goal are we trying to achieve?
 
arg-fallbackName="Prolescum"/>
Situations like this gave rise to the term quagmire being used to describe them for a reason. I'm angry (in a completely impotent way) about it, but not really able to articulate my thoughts quite yet. I believe in my gut that it's another mistake, as rushing to war usually is, but I haven't really spent much time wading through the situation to come to a final position.
 
arg-fallbackName="he_who_is_nobody"/>
SpecialFrog said:
Who should the West bomb and what exactly is it supposed to accomplish? What end goal are we trying to achieve?

YES! I want to know this too! What is the point of bombing these people if all we do is bomb them for a year and leave? Are we (the countries bombing) going to actually rebuild this area? Are we just trying to kill as many people as we can and hope for peace some day? Or are we going to do what the U.S. has already done in this area, in propping up a “government” and pulling out at the first chance? What is the end game and what is the best way to achieve it? I honestly do not see a point in just dropping bombs without having a plan in place.

I agree ISIS is terrible, and could be convinced that action should be taken against them. I understand completely that Europe and Russia have far more skin in the game since this is happening so close to their boarders. However, is dropping bombs the best solution we have for dealing with this issue in 2015?
 
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Thought this was apt.

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arg-fallbackName="Dragan Glas"/>
Greetings,

Here's how to combat the ideology behind ISIS:





Kindest regards,

James
 
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