The stupidest thing a creatonist has ever said to you

[ShootMyMonkey]

Speaking of god and numbers, I once had a creationist tell me that Pi (hmm, that's a point, if i post greek characters will they actually parse here?) was a good proof of God since it was perfect, infinitely recurring and it took three of them to make a circle (like the trinity or something).

Yeah it didn't make any sense to me either.

Send this guy back to math class.

Perfect? 6 and 28 are perfect numbers, but pi certainly isn't. Perfect numbers are always integers.

infinitely recurring? I think he's confusing the idea of having infinitely many digits, and actually having infinite recurrence. There isn't any significant recurrence pattern, AFAIK, in the digits of pi. If there was such a thing, we might just end up tearing down the very idea of irrational numbers. You want infinite recurrence, he could have just gone with 1/3... that has infinitely many recurring digits, and it takes 3 of them to equal a whole (1.0), which is like the trinity. There you go! God is proven by analogy to arithmetic tautology!

And then... it takes 3 pi to make a circle? ummm... in what space? Generally speaking in Euclidean space, it takes 2pi radians to make a circle, or merely a factor of pi to make a circle if taken as a ratio against the diameter.

 

[Visaki]

In a discussion on a different forum, though I'm not quite sure the person is a creationist. The thread was about life after death and how many Finns believe in it (20-25%) but we were discussing his "Evolution theory is just a theory" statement and my "go to library, get a book that explains the scientific method, read it and then come back" rebuttal.

Adversary: The Satan in you got nervous when it noticed that you can't lead me stray. I don't envy you. Keep doing Satans work with someone else. Your evil intentions have no effect on me.
Me: Can there be a better example of an ad hominem than calling one Satan?
Adversary: I didn't call you Satan but said that Satan does his work through you. When we talk about God it's natural that Satan doesn't want people to believe in Jesus. There was no ad hominem in my statement. There is no other with out the other.

I think he actually believes that calling me Satans conduit is a relevant point in the discussion. I mean because he's on the side of God and I'm pretty much trying to demolish everything he says I must be a tool for Satan, right?

 

[Frenger]

I know this wasn't said directly to me but it is quite a pearler.

Kent Hovind during a debate with Michael Shermer said

"remember, you can't use fossils as evidence of evolution because they don't show an animal giving birth to a different animal"

:shock:

 

[Anachronous Rex]

In a discussion on a different forum, though I'm not quite sure the person is a creationist. The thread was about life after death and how many Finns believe in it (20-25%) but we were discussing his "Evolution theory is just a theory" statement and my "go to library, get a book that explains the scientific method, read it and then come back" rebuttal.

Adversary: The Satan in you got nervous when it noticed that you can't lead me stray. I don't envy you. Keep doing Satans work with someone else. Your evil intentions have no effect on me.
Me: Can there be a better example of an ad hominem than calling one Satan?
Adversary: I didn't call you Satan but said that Satan does his work through you. When we talk about God it's natural that Satan doesn't want people to believe in Jesus. There was no ad hominem in my statement. There is no other with out the other.

I think he actually believes that calling me Satans conduit is a relevant point in the discussion. I mean because he's on the side of God and I'm pretty much trying to demolish everything he says I must be a tool for Satan, right?

Remind me to visit your wonderful little arctic paradise.

...just don't snipe me.

 

[Visaki]

Remind me to visit your wonderful little arctic paradise.

...just don't snipe me.

We rather like it here. Talking about sniping: Do you know Simo Häyhä? I actually had a chance of meeting him once. Now there's a sniper. Me? I have thouble hitting a barn. From the inside.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

A comment left on one of my videos.

kroekenut[/url]"]The fossil record shows humans lived as contemporaries with a.afarensis as they are found in the same strata layer.The oldest homo erectus fossil is half the age of the oldest modern human fossil(2Mya vs nearly 4Mya)The oldest neandertal is only 800,000ya.How can any of these be ancestors when we existed before them?The evolutionary tree is disproved by the fossil record and only exists in the, imagination.Look at the evidence,not the fantasy. We've been around as long as any other primate.

 

[australopithecus]

Not a creationist (that I know of) but still...

Fire in the lives, minds and hearts of mankind is the devil you seek. All of our minds united to destroy all life.
Fire in the lives, minds and hearts of mankind created electricity (power).
Electricity in the lives of mankind created media, showing and telling us lies every day.
Can you hear the flame inside you saying in your mind? "No man can live without fire. If you want life you need to walk a life with fire." The devil in our minds keeping us from the truth.
Many reject the truth, dismiss it due to it's primitive meaning. Many that accept the truth in the Word hold it in them with fear. The knowledge of the truth and guilt that can follow is too heavy for most to carry.
The faith that fire is the source of the evil that dwells within all of us is the basis for most major religions in the world today. The Bible is a teaching that is abundantly clear that fire is an evil path for mankind to follow. The tree of the dead with sweet fruit giving death to the wanting.
Mankind has put to death to any living thing it desires for progress, or what man perceives as progress. In fact it's seen by all of mankind that we are on a path to our own certian exstinction.
I am here to bring abrupt change to the thinking of mankind. If you have read this far let me assure you your spirit is already saved and will be returned to your place in the true life.
Eight men have been called only one can overcome my lack of doing of the Word. My spirit is willing but my flesh is weak.

 

[australopithecus]

I was accosted by Ray Comfort fanboys at the supermarket today. They tried the "Have you ever told a lie...?" nonsense; I said no. They didn't like that.

 

[Dean]

I was accosted by Ray Comfort fanboys at the supermarket today. They tried the "Have you ever told a lie...?" nonsense; I said no. They didn't like that.

Yes . . . I can imagine that. I assumed , perhaps naà¯vely , that there was no-one quite like him and his credulous legions in this country.

 

[Nom_de_Plume]

Ooooh I have a good one.
Not sure if someone else had this one happen to them as well because I honestly have not read through all 51 pages of this.

29 years ago I made the mistake of falling for a christian because he had nice eyes and I've had to deal with this sort of nonsense from his family ever since.

About 4 days ago I was talking with my brother in law and he said something to the effect of ......

Well science is just bunk anyhow, you geeks haven't even figured out what gravity is.
So how can you say there is no God!
You can't tell me just because there is no evidence that God exists and can't be proven scientifically when you can't solve gravity either, cuz we all know that gravity exists we also all know that God exists ....... Except YOU!!!!

My brain is melting, how the heck does someone counter such a blatant clusterfuck of that sort of logic?

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

Ooooh I have a good one.
Not sure if someone else had this one happen to them as well because I honestly have not read through all 51 pages of this.

29 years ago I made the mistake of falling for a christian because he had nice eyes and I've had to deal with this sort of nonsense from his family ever since.

About 4 days ago I was talking with my brother in law and he said something to the effect of ......

Well science is just bunk anyhow, you geeks haven't even figured out what gravity is.
So how can you say there is no God!
You can't tell me just because there is no evidence that God exists and can't be proven scientifically when you can't solve gravity either, cuz we all know that gravity exists we also all know that God exists ....... Except YOU!!!!

My brain is melting, how the heck does someone counter such a blatant clusterfuck of that sort of logic?

No one has proven that (insert deity of choice here) doesn't exist. That means (deity of choice) must exist too. Use something he won't believe in like FSM or Invisible Pink Unicorn.

 

[Duvelthehobbit666]

And Ray strikes again.

 

[Nom_de_Plume]

crockaduck???
:lol: :lol: :lol:
wow.... :facepalm:
I'd never seen that before, thanks for sharing

 

[WarK]

crockaduck???
:lol: :lol: :lol:
wow.... :facepalm:
I'd never seen that before, thanks for sharing

*packs his stuff and moves to Canada*

 

[australopithecus]

I was accosted by Ray Comfort fanboys at the supermarket today. They tried the "Have you ever told a lie...?" nonsense; I said no. They didn't like that.

Yes . . . I can imagine that. I assumed , perhaps naà¯vely , that there was no-one quite like him and his credulous legions in this country.

Comfort has his fingers in international pies it seems. It was his Living Waters ministry. I'd only gone to ASDA for chicken, not fundamentalism. I got a little comic and everything.

 

[tuxbox]

And Ray strikes again.

I seriously cannot stand those idiots.

*Edit*

They pulled that "crocoduck" crap during a debate with the Rational Response Squad. They need new material.

 

[Nom_de_Plume]

Actually I'm very lucky the only person who really says this kinda stuff to me is my Bro in law, he recently got saved? ( I believe that's the term anyhow) so he could catch the girl he'd had his eye on.
My family is of course atheist and my husband dropped his christianity once he realized it was bollocks shortly before we got married.
his parents are sometimes church goers but other than that....
I very rarely encounter the whole religion thing unless I decide to make an issue out of it with someone who's a little to vocal about their beliefs.

 

[Gnug215]

Ooooh I have a good one.
Not sure if someone else had this one happen to them as well because I honestly have not read through all 51 pages of this.

29 years ago I made the mistake of falling for a christian because he had nice eyes and I've had to deal with this sort of nonsense from his family ever since.

About 4 days ago I was talking with my brother in law and he said something to the effect of ......

Well science is just bunk anyhow, you geeks haven't even figured out what gravity is.
So how can you say there is no God!
You can't tell me just because there is no evidence that God exists and can't be proven scientifically when you can't solve gravity either, cuz we all know that gravity exists we also all know that God exists ....... Except YOU!!!!

My brain is melting, how the heck does someone counter such a blatant clusterfuck of that sort of logic?

You should have stolen his Bible, dropped it on the floor, told him: "there, that's evidence of gravity. Your turn!"

 

[televator]

I was accosted by Ray Comfort fanboys at the supermarket today. They tried the "Have you ever told a lie...?" nonsense; I said no. They didn't like that.

:lol:

 

[Visaki]

First time in... ever... I got ambushed by a streetpreacher (to be honest I've seen a few, just a few, in my time but this was the first time I was aproached by one) a few days ago with the "Do you know Jesus loves you?" line. After I explained to her that Jesus isn't even rotting anymore but more likely just dust (I admit I was a bit rude, bad day at work) in some cave somewhere I heard another of the bunch arguing with some girl about sin. The girl, quite rationally I think, was explaining that there is no sin and the counter argument was "sin exists because God exists". After this the girl, of course, told him that there is no God and to this came the facepalm reply of "existence of sin proves God". I was actually pretty dumbfounded by the circularity as she probably was since she just shook her head and left.

I'd have had a few more since William Lane Craig was talking in my local univeristy (of Helsinki) today with the cosmology professor Kari Enquist on if God was nesessarry for the universe but I couldn't go and watch because of work. I actually spent last week thinking about what I'd ask him if I got the chance but ... work, bah. I was kind of between "Do you still advocate for genocide?" and as more intellectual question "Do you think that philosophical arguments really have some real value in determining the existence of anything and why?"