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The problem of Homoplasy

Frenger

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Found this on a creationist website. What do people think?
One of the most fundamental arguments for evolution is the argument from homology, where morphological similarity is used as proof of phyletic relationship due to inheritance from a common ancestor. Classically, symplesiomorphic (shared primitive form) characters were used to group taxa. With the rise of cladistics, however, the focus has shifted to synapomorphic (shared derived form) characters in the determination of phyletic relationships. One of the consequences of that shift is that derived characters that before would be ignored except when dealing with the diagnosis for a particular taxon are now an integral part of the phyletic analysis. This gives a more comprehensive view of the character distributions within a group of taxa.
Homoplasy-correspondence between parts or organs acquired as the result of parallel evolution or convergence. (http://www.merriam-w...onary/homoplasy) Homoplasy is a flat contradiction to the principle of using morphological similarity to prove relationship, because you cannot attribute such similarity to inheritance, but rather it would have had to originate independently. In reality, it is nothing more than an ad hoc explanation as to why the principle of homology doesn't work in a particular instance.

During the 1980's and 1990's several workers including, but not limited to, Richard C. Hulbert Jr., Bruce J. MacFadden, and Thomas S. Kelly, did a comprehensive revision of the mesodont (middle-crowned) and hypsodont (high-crowned) grazing horses. While a college student in the '90s, I mapped out the character distributions in several of their cladistic analyses, and the first of these I am presenting here. In 1989, Hulbert published an analysis that included the 13 well established genera of hypsodont horses, and 10 "Merychippus" grade mesodont horses, with "Parahippus" leonensis as the outgroup (Hulbert, Richard C. Jr., 1989. Phylogenetic Interrelationships and Evolution of North American Late Neogene Equidae. In "The Evolution of Perissodactyls", Prothero, D. R. and Schoch, R. M. (eds.)). He used 45 characters, 7 of which have multiple states (3 with differently derived states, and 4 with sequentially derived states), for a total of 52 derived characters.

Below is Hulbert's fig 11.2 cladogram with all of the characters mapped and color-coded as follows: Yellow= unreversed synapomorphies, i.e. characters that can be unequivocally attributed to shared inheritance. Green= synapomorphies that are subsequently reversed in one or more taxa and are therefore equivocal in there use as proof of relationship. Pink= reversals of the above green characters. Blue= parallelisms where the character would have to have been acquired independently more than once, i.e. homoplasy. Gray= autapomorphic characters unique to a single taxon and therefore useless for determining phyletic relationship.

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17 of the characters prove to be unreversed synapomorphies and therefore can be used as unequivocal evidence of phyletic descent. I have 18 mapped as yellow, but character 44--tridactyl to monodactyl feet--is actually a parallelism in the Equinae. Hulbert used Pliohippus mirabilis, a tridactyl form, to score the characters for Pliohippus. But the more derived Pliohippus pernix and Pliohippus nobilis are monodactyl (see, for example, Kelly http://www.nhm.org/s...ience/CS473.pdf), so one-toed feet would have had to originate independently twice-once in the Pliohippus clade, and again in the Astrohippus-Dinohippus-Equus-Onohippidium-Hippidion clade.
12 of the characters are synapomorphic but get reversed, and so are equivocal in their use in establishing phyletic relationship.
6 of the characters are autapomorphic (unique to a single taxon) and therefore useless for determining interrelationships.
17 of the characters are parallelisms, or, in other words, homoplastic, and therefore contradict the principle of homology.
A count of the total number of instances where a character state has been changed yields 29 synapomorphies, 27 reversals, and 44 parallelisms (some parallelisms occur more than twice). Now, I'm no mathematical genius, but when the ratio of the number of occurrences that support a method (29 synapomorphies) to the number of occurrences that contradict a method (44 parallelisms) is about 2:3, there is something seriously flawed with the method. If you include the reversals with the parallelisms, it gets even worse, about 2:5.

My question for evolutionists is this: if the practice of using morphological similarity to prove phyletic relationship due to inheritance from a common ancestor performs so poorly and is so equivocal in such a closely (and truly) related group like the Equinae, why should it carry any credibility when dealing with such widely disparate forms like a human, a bat, and a whale? The only way I can see to maintain such an argument is if you engage in extreme "cherry picking" in your selection of characters that "prove" relationship.

It would seem to me that the more reasonable hypothesis, at least with regard to the Equidae, is that all these characters are "subroutines" that were built into the equid genome from the start. And that allowed them to be mosaically expressed in different combinations as the horses spread out and diversified in the rapidly changing early post flood world. Of course, that presents an even bigger problem for an evolutionary origin of these characters. How do you select for and preserve a character that hasn't even been expressed yet?
 
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Gee I don't know, I guess creationism wins finally. Looks like this is the one thing every biologist must have missed, and now we know we were wrong.

Even though we can demonstrate all mechanisms necessary for evolution to occur, THIS argument proves that the best explanation for the diversity of life is not how it is currently seen to diversify, but the totally unobserved phenomenon of animals being conjured into existence by an invisible entity.
 
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As said before, my net connection is quite bad here so I've only got my usual sites up and won't do grand research in books or internet sites. If there are mistakes, please point them out to me.
One of the most fundamental arguments for evolution is the argument from homology, where morphological similarity is used as proof of phyletic relationship due to inheritance from a common ancestor.

This statement is in its essence correct, but turned very slightly. The argument goes: IF there is a common ancestor, homologous structures can be found in their offspring. There are homologous structures and no other theory we know of can account for them.
Homoplasy is a flat contradiction to the principle of using morphological similarity to prove relationship, because you cannot attribute such similarity to inheritance, but rather it would have had to originate independently. In reality, it is nothing more than an ad hoc explanation as to why the principle of homology doesn't work in a particular instance.

Just to explain what homoplasy is, because I don't like the MW definition: In convergent evolution, species can share traits/organs. This is called homoplasy.
To understand why the above argument is bullshit, one needs to know a bit about convergent evolution. Here's one example, a comparison of Thylacine (Thylacinus cynocephalus) and Grey Wolf (Canis lupus) skulls:
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Although the skulls look very similar to the untrained eye, there are some distinct differences between them. For example, check out the third picture in the large one. The left skull has openings (maxillary palatal vacuity), while the wolf to my knowledge does not. There are also ways to distinguish between their teeth. In fact, this site is great! Here's their comparison of the two skulls.

So as you can see, it's plainly obvious that we can differentiate between convergent evolution and close ancestry. Who'da thunk it!

Before I go any further, here's an excellent article titled EVOLUTION AND SYSTEMATICS. I've not yet read the five part series, but I intend to. To anyone who wishes to delve into the subject, here's where you can start.

Now, here's the big problem: The book the author uses to make his/her argument costs roughly 220$ and I can't find it anywhere online. The diagram doesn't look like something one would find in a book and I don't have access to Hulbert's analysis to understand what the diagram is all about. I don't really trust a creationist to make a fair argument, so for now I'm stranded and can't go any further than this in my analysis. I will be back at University in two weeks or so and I'll try to find the book in their library. I can't promise anything though.
 
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They seem to miss the application of genetics when constructing phylogenetic trees... Sure when comparing morphology alone you might come up with a few mistakes, but looking at genetics and things such as ERVs we can construct more accurate phylogenetic trees that correct mistakes made from our earlier assumptions based upon morphology alone....
 
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