borrofburi
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Browsing around, I found a discussion in which someone claimed that "atheism is the route of not-thinking". Of course, it turned out to be a person with the following views (I suppose this means he thinks the "correct" position is "agnostic" according to his definitions):
My wonder is how any of us can have decent discussions on the topic of god when none of us can agree on the definitions? It seems to me that no matter who is talking, the definitions of "atheist" and "agnostic" are never agreed upon.
Here's the thing with atheism that everybody seems to not get. Everyone instantly thinks atheism is a rejection of religion or any claim of God, which isn't exactly true.
Before you even answer, "Is there a God?" you have to ask, "Can this question be answered?" There's three possible answers to that: Yes, no, and maybe. If you say no or maybe, that means you're agnostic. It has nothing to do with claiming there is a God or not, it's simple the belief that the answer cannot be provided. If you say the question can be answered, then you move onto the next question: Is there a God? Which can be broken down into different subgroups like theistic, atheistic, and mysticism. A theistic belief is that you can answer the question and that there is, indeed, a God. An atheistic belief is the complete opposite. Which means you would be claiming you can answer that question and that there is no God at all. If you say, "Well, with proof otherwise," is bullshit because that doesn't make you atheist, it makes you AGNOSTIC. Mysticism really has nothing to do with any of this, so I'll just stop there.
My wonder is how any of us can have decent discussions on the topic of god when none of us can agree on the definitions? It seems to me that no matter who is talking, the definitions of "atheist" and "agnostic" are never agreed upon.