The Evidence Bible?

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

1) How long has this been out?
2) Is there a debunk copy available?
3) If not, why don't we just grab a copy and let's start on it?!

Looks like it's probably every piece of apologetic bullshit piled into a single tome, with nice little edits to support the statements. I would love to have a reference copy just to destroy for some lulz and in the name of logical discussion.

Oh - and I'm having a pretty heated discussion in the comments section of the vid.

 

[lrkun]

1) How long has this been out?
2) Is there a debunk copy available?
3) If not, why don't we just grab a copy and let's start on it?!

Looks like it's probably every piece of apologetic bullshit piled into a single tome, with nice little edits to support the statements. I would love to have a reference copy just to destroy for some lulz and in the name of logical discussion.

Oh - and I'm having a pretty heated discussion in the comments section of the vid.

Wow. People must be gullible to buy this sort.

 

[RedYellow]

Isn't this basically an admission that the actual bible is insufficient as evidence? :lol:

I really think these guys want to just rewrite the whole bible. And all of history.

 

[lrkun]

They do enjoy squeezing money out of their flock. ^^

 

[CosmicJoghurt]

Oh, now they're too lazy to go into arguments, so they write a book and let their stupidity speak for itself. That's good enough for me, I might even buy a copy. Hopefully now they'll spend less time arguing and more time on interviews regarding what a wonderful book this is, and whatnot... I'm happy for them.

 

[nemesiss]

this should be a hilarious book of fail.
not just epic fail but over 9000 fail!!

not i found it has a website with apperantly the book online.
http://www.evidencebible.com/
so i decide to open the first thing, its in pdf.... and i got and error message... without and error message... just a question mark from adobe Reader itself.
1 press on F5 and i was ready to read thebook of fail. and failing it did.

 

[Visaki]

When I heard about Ray and Kirks edition of Origin of Speacies the first thing that went through my mind was "hmm, can we do the same with the Bible"? Being as old as it is the Bible should be copyright free too. We could throw together a nice intoduction of it's real history and who actually wrote it and when, how it has shaped our world and what has been done in the name of the religion which it has inspired.

Can you imagine the scandal that book would make, specially in the fundamentalist christian circles? I bet we'd get enough money for a run of a few thousands just because of that.

 

[Prolescum]

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When we interact with people on a daily basis, we have many opportunities for sharing our faith. First, be sure you are respectful to your employer and set a good example in your work ethic by working "as to the Lord" (Colossians 3:23).

When others around you grumble and complain, if you have a calm, forgiving, steadfast spirit, it will make an impression. As you respond in a Christ-like way to angry coworkers and stressful circumstances, people will see a difference in your life. Always be friendly and courteous, and show genuine interest in your coworkers' lives. Invite them out to lunch to get better acquainted. Share their joys and sorrows by congratulating them in their good times and offering to pray for them in their bad times.

Be sure you do pray for them, then follow up by asking them about the situation you prayed for. They will be moved by your concern. If coworkers are discussing what they did during the previous weekend, you can share your excitement about attending church services or a special church event. Ask others if they have any plans for celebrating Christmas or Easter; be nonjudgmental of their answer, but be ready (if asked) to explain why you celebrate as you do.

Displaying a favorite Scripture or a devotional calendar, or reading your Bible during lunchtime, may prompt others to inquire about your faith. Bringing home-baked goods or leaving a small gift with a note on a coworker's desk can sometimes have a greater impact than a thousand eloquent sermons. We can show our faith by our works. Others may not like a tree of righteousness, but they cannot help but like its fruit. Pray for opportunities to share the gospel, being careful not to infringe on your boss's time.

All the material in this section of our website comes directly from the pages of The Evidence Bible.

What in the name of Mornington Crescent does this have to do with evidence for the bible? :lol:

so i decide to open the first thing, its in pdf.... and i got and error message... without and error message... just a question mark from adobe Reader itself.
1 press on F5 and i was ready to read thebook of fail. and failing it did.

It works fine in my pdf viewer (granted, it wasn't created by Adobe...) It has stuff like:

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Pretty funny stuff.

 

[quantumfireball2099]

Oh FFS this book is full of /facepalm;

THE EVIDENCE BIBLE - Point for Open-Air Preaching- Never Fear Hecklers;

The best thing that can happen to an open-air meeting is
to have a good heckler. Jesus gave us some of the greatest
gems of Scripture because someone either made a statement or asked a question
in an open-air setting.

A good heckler can increase a crowd of 20 people
to 200 in a matter of minutes. The air becomes electric. Suddenly, you
have 200 people listening intently to how you will answer a heckler. All you have to do is
remember the attributes of 2 Timothy 2:23-26: be patient, gentle, humble, etc. Don't worry if
you can't answer a question. Just say, "I can't answer that, but I'll try to get the answer for you
if you really want to know." With Bible "difficulties," I regularly fall back on the powerful statement
of Mark Twain: "Most people are bothered by those passages of Scripture they don't understand,
but for me I have always noticed that the passages that bother me are those I do understand."

A "good" heckler is one who will provoke your thoughts. He will stand up, speak up, then
shut up so that you can preach. Occasionally, you will get hecklers who have the first two qualifications,
but they just won't be quiet. If they will not let you get a word in, move your location.
Most of the crowd will follow. Better to have 10 listeners who can hear than 200 who can't. If
the heckler follows, move again...then the crowd will usually turn on him.

One ploy that often works with a heckler who is out solely to hinder the gospel is to wait
until he is quiet and say to the crowd (making sure the heckler is listening also), "I want to show
you how people are like sheep. When I move, watch this man follow me because he can't get a
crowd by himself." His pride usually keeps him from following.

If you have a "mumbling heckler" who won't speak up, ignore him and talk over the top of
him. This will usually get him angry enough to speak up and draw hearers. There is a fine line
between him getting angry enough to draw a crowd, and hitting you; you will find it in time.
If you are fortunate enough to get a heckler, don't panic. Show him genuine respect, not
only because he can double your crowd, but because the Bible says to honor all men, so you
don't want to offend him unnecessarily. Ask the heckler his name, so that if you want to ask
him a question and he is talking to someone, you don't have to say, "Hey you!"

Often, people will walk through the crowd so they can get close to you and will whisper
something like, "I think you are a #@*!$!" Answer loud enough for the crowd to hear, "God
bless you." Do it with a smile so that it looks as though the person has just whispered a word of
encouragement to you. This will stop him from doing it again. The Bible says to bless those who
curse you, and to do good to those who hate you.

Remember that you are not fighting against flesh and blood. Hecklers will stoop very low
and be cutting and cruel in their remarks. If you have some physical disability, they will play on it.
Try to smile back at them. Look past the words. If you are reviled for the name of Jesus, "rejoice,
and be exceeding glad." Read Matthew 5:10-12 until it is written on the corridors of your mind.

The most angry hecklers are usually what we call "backsliders." These are actually false converts
who never slid forward in the first place. They "asked Jesus into their heart" but never truly
repented. Ask him, "Did you know the Lord?" (see Hebrews 8:11). If he answers "Yes," then he
is admitting that he is willfully denying Him, and if he answers "No," then he was never a
Christian in the first place,"This is eternal life, that they might know you, the only true God,
and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" (John 17:3). See 1 Corinthians 2:4 footnote.

**Emphasis in the quote is mine.

The irony makes me so angry that I want to stomp kittens!

 

[quantumfireball2099]

wow... their insight into the minds of the people in the bible is astounding!

"There are contradictions in the resurrection accounts. Did Christ appear first to the women or to His disciples?

Both Matthew and Mark list women as the first to see the resurrected Christ. Mark says, "He appeared first to Mary Magdalene" (16:9). But Paul lists Peter (Cephas) as the first one to see Christ after His resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:5).

Jesus appeared first to Mary Magdalene, then to the other women, and then to Peter. Paul was not giving a complete list, but only the important one for his purpose. Since only men's testimony was considered legal or official in the first century, it is understandable that the apostle would not list the women as witnesses in his defense of the resurrection here."

I would love to know how they know this? Maybe God told them.

 

[RigelKentaurusA]

We could throw together a nice intoduction of it's real history and who actually wrote it and when, how it has shaped our world and what has been done in the name of the religion which it has inspired.

Can you imagine the scandal that book would make, specially in the fundamentalist christian circles? I bet we'd get enough money for a run of a few thousands just because of that.

We totally should. The information is out there, just not really altogether in one source as far as I know.

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

wow... their insight into the minds of the people in the bible is astounding!

"There are contradictions in the resurrection accounts. Did Christ appear first to the women or to His disciples?

Both Matthew and Mark list women as the first to see the resurrected Christ. Mark says, "He appeared first to Mary Magdalene" (16:9). But Paul lists Peter (Cephas) as the first one to see Christ after His resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:5).

Jesus appeared first to Mary Magdalene, then to the other women, and then to Peter. Paul was not giving a complete list, but only the important one for his purpose. Since only men's testimony was considered legal or official in the first century, it is understandable that the apostle would not list the women as witnesses in his defense of the resurrection here."

I would love to know how they know this? Maybe God told them.

The attitude to women is a well-known cultural quirk of patriarchal societies in general, and would be expected in the culture at the time.

Kindest regards,

James

 

[Laurens]

We should just make a point of moving this book to the fantasy section every time we see it in a store...

 

[Dragan Glas]

Greetings,

Interesting that in changing it's name, they've tacitly acknowledged that it isn't "Holy" any more - if it ever was...

I wonder if they'll be castigated for "denying" it's holy...?

Kindest regards,

James

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

More gold:

7:15 In Deuteronomy 18:20-22, the Bible proclaims capital punishment for a prophet who wasn't
one hundred percent correct. Many think that the 16th-century astrologer Nostradamus was a
prophet from God. However, only those who are ignorant of Bible prophecy will be impressed with
the prophecies of Nostradamus. He was a false prophet who read the Bible in secret, stole its
prophecies, and claimed them as his own.

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This book is so much loaded bullshit that it makes my head swim. Who's going to make a series to debunk this?

WHO WANTS MILLIONS OF VIEWS?

 

[RigelKentaurusA]

Who's going to make a series to debunk this?

I'm sure thinking about it....

Edit: How did you get to the Old Testament? That's the best part! I'm only presented with options to view The NT, Psalms and Proverbs.

 

[Laurens]

Who's going to make a series to debunk this?

I'm sure thinking about it....

Edit: How did you get to the Old Testament? That's the best part! I'm only presented with options to view The NT, Psalms and Proverbs.

This is something that we could do collectively. Each put our knowledge (if you're up for it of course) into extensively debunking this book, and then appoint someone to edit and compile it so we can distribute it online.

 

[quantumfireball2099]

The attitude to women is a well-known cultural quirk of patriarchal societies in general, and would be expected in the culture at the time.

Kindest regards,

James

I do understand how women were (and still are) viewed. My point was; How does Ray and his ilk KNOW that this is why Paul left the women out of his accouting of the story? Maybe Paul didn't know what happened at the tomb? Maybe he was making it up?

 

[)O( Hytegia )O(]

This is something that we could do collectively. Each put our knowledge (if you're up for it of course) into extensively debunking this book, and then appoint someone to edit and compile it so we can distribute it online.

I think that it's already begun.

 

[Prolescum]

I think that it's already begun.

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