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[Rumraket]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

[game over

The game for your world view has been over since the universe exists. Your world view is from fanasy land. There is no creation without a creator.

Simply calling that which exists for "creation" does not entail it is that. It's just a label you put on.

Suppose I call it uncreation. Then what?

 

[surreptitious57]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

The game for your world view has been over since the universe exists. Your world view is from fanasy land. There is no creation without a creator

The Universe exists so is evidence for God ? Unfortunately all a non sequitur is evidence of is faulty logic. Now it is not known at this point in time
if the Universe had a beginning. If it did not then that would logically render God entirely superfluous to requirement. And so then presumably you
can provide evidence that it did have a beginning. And I do not just mean local cosmic expansion. I mean the entire Cosmos which would include
all other universes or multiverses as well. Since God obviously had to have created them too. Then you can publish your findings in a peer review
journal for all the worlds astrophysicists to see before collecting your Nobel Prize

 

[Deleted member 619]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

I don't think Jireh's findings would be of much interest to the Nobel committee. Probably best just to flush and move on.

 

[Rumraket]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

Jireh's findings? You mean the buttons CTRL, C and V on his keyboard?

 

[WarK]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

Jireh's findings? You mean the buttons CTRL, C and V on his keyboard?

Do you reckon he needs another person to help him press two keys at once?

 

[Deleted member 619]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

I reckon he needs another person to help him yawn and scratch his fucking arse at once.

 

[Elshamah]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

Suppose I call it uncreation. Then what?

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

The game for your world view has been over since the universe exists. Your world view is from fanasy land. There is no creation without a creator.

If Nature is eternal and String Theory is correct, then creation as you call it, could occur without a Creator.

:lol:

The person that literally believes a deity created a man from dust, a woman from the man's rib, and placed them in a garden with a talking snake is claiming someone else's position is from fantasy land? That is just rich.

 

[SpecialFrog]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

Elshamah, on top of everything else, you make the worst attempted meme images I have ever seen. It's like you have been taking lessons on the Internet from the Church of Scientology.

 

[thenexttodie]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

wow, the refutations are amazingly convincing.

That's because atheists are the only ones who understand how science works.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

wow, the refutations are amazingly convincing.

That's because atheists are the only ones who understand how science works.

[image]http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/files/2014/07/wpid-Photo-20140720140548.jpg[/image]​

Reality is a minefield for the denialists.

 

[Mr_Wilford]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

Lol look guys I made a meme :ddDDDDDDD

 

[Elshamah]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

The person that literally believes a deity created a man from dust, a woman from the man's rib, and placed them in a garden with a talking snake is claiming someone else's position is from fantasy land? That is just rich.

the description of man from the dust is perfectly scientific :

https://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/from-dust-to-man-a-scientific-proof/

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

Lol look guys I made a meme :ddDDDDDDD

 

[red]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

the description of man from the dust is perfectly scientific :

https://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/from-dust-to-man-a-scientific-proof/

The reference assumes a complete being breathed into life, of the dust.
That would be magic and I would pay to see.

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

The person that literally believes a deity created a man from dust, a woman from the man's rib, and placed them in a garden with a talking snake is claiming someone else's position is from fantasy land? That is just rich.

the description of man from the dust is perfectly scientific :

https://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/from-dust-to-man-a-scientific-proof/

 

[Elshamah]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

the description of man from the dust is perfectly scientific :

https://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/from-dust-to-man-a-scientific-proof/

The reference assumes a complete being breathed into life, of the dust.
That would be magic and I would pay to see.

Magic would be the universe being caused by nothing, or self causing itself. Since the universe is not eternal, that are the only options beside a eternal God creating the universe.

 

[Rumraket]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

The reference assumes a complete being breathed into life, of the dust.
That would be magic and I would pay to see.

Magic would be the universe being caused by nothing, or self causing itself. Since the universe is not eternal, that are the only options beside a eternal God creating the universe.

What did god create the universe out of?

When I create something, I usually have material at hand. When I paint a painting, I have paint and a canvas. When I create a table, I have wood and tools.

What did god use to make a universe?

 

[Dragan Glas]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

Greetings,

The reference assumes a complete being breathed into life, of the dust.
That would be magic and I would pay to see.

Magic would be the universe being caused by nothing, or self causing itself. Since the universe is not eternal, that are the only options beside a eternal God creating the universe.

God can be eternal but the universe - "everything that exists" - can't be... Does that really make sense?

You're claiming that God is eternal by fiat but that the universe isn't - by fiat.

Kindest regards,

James

 

[he_who_is_nobody]

Re: Proteintransport into Mitochondria is irreducible comple

The reference assumes a complete being breathed into life, of the dust.
That would be magic and I would pay to see.

Magic would be the universe being caused by nothing, or self causing itself. Since the universe is not eternal, that are the only options beside a eternal God creating the universe.

How exactly is the miraculous creation of anything out of nothing by a god(s) not considered magic? The best thing about this post is that you are trying to ridicule others for not accepting your magical creation story by calling theirs magic as well. You obviously know that saying something is magic/miraculous is not a proper explanation, yet the other side of the argument is not claiming magic/miracles as an explanation while you are by definition. Thus, this appears to be a classic case of the pot calling the silverware black.