SpecialFrog
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Thenexttodie, Europe possibly has more beards than the US. This statement is as much of a non-sequitur as yours as it has no bearing on whether or not racism impacts the application of the death penalty in the US.
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he_who_is_nobody said:
SpecialFrog said:Thenexttodie, Europe possibly has more beards than the US. This statement is as much of a non-sequitur as yours as it has no bearing on whether or not racism impacts the application of the death penalty in the US.
thenexttodie said:he_who_is_nobody said:
Europeans are so racist, white Europeans are even racist against other white Europeans. No one who has spent a significant amount of time living and working in the E.U. can honestly deny this. I have a black guy working under me right now who would probably be my boss if we were in the US. He will never be promoted. The reason why no empirical study exists which I could cite is because everyone knows it is true. Europe is a great to place to go to experience racism.
There are studies which show the discrepancy between sentencing in general, nevermind when the death penalty is on the table.thenexttodie said:What's your point? Blacks are more often sentenced to death than whites are for fucking murdering people in the past 50 years or some fucking bullshit?SpecialFrog said:Thenexttodie, Europe possibly has more beards than the US. This statement is as much of a non-sequitur as yours as it has no bearing on whether or not racism impacts the application of the death penalty in the US.
Yes, we're referring to, and are concerned about, that.thenexttodie said:And so you are worried that death penalty might be racist, or that racist ideas might infect the minds of jurors faced with a death penalty case? Some pussy bullshit like that, is what your worried about right?
How is this in keeping with the Christian message of compassion? Of "forgive and forget"?thenexttodie said:How about we just take all murderers and line them up against a wall and fucking shoot them all? Sounds good to me. Would that be racist?
thenexttodie said:How about we just take all murderers and line them up against a wall and fucking shoot them all? Sounds good to me. Would that be racist?
thenexttodie said:How about we just take all murderers and line them up against a wall and fucking shoot them all? Sounds good to me. Would that be racist?
Dragan Glas said:How is this in keeping with the Christian message of compassion? Of "forgive and forget"?
thenexttodie said:thenexttodie said:How about we just take all murderers and line them up against a wall and fucking shoot them all? Sounds good to me. Would that be racist?Dragan Glas said:How is this in keeping with the Christian message of compassion? Of "forgive and forget"?
How do you forgive a murderer?
Have you actually read the Bible?thenexttodie said:How do you forgive a murderer?
Matthew 6:14 said:For if you forgive people their failures your heavenly Father will forgive you; but if you do not forgive people their failures neither will your heavenly Father forgive yours.
thenexttodie said:How do you forgive a murderer?
itsdemtitans said:Didn't Jesus forgive those who crucified him?
thenexttodie said:thenexttodie said:How do you forgive a murderer?
itsdemtitans said:Didn't Jesus forgive those who crucified him?
Are you saying we can only forgive are own murderers or can we forgive some one who murders someone else?
The same way you forgive anyone - by having compassion for others.thenexttodie said:thenexttodie said:How about we just take all murderers and line them up against a wall and fucking shoot them all? Sounds good to me. Would that be racist?Dragan Glas said:How is this in keeping with the Christian message of compassion? Of "forgive and forget"?
How do you forgive a murderer?
thenexttodie said:thenexttodie said:How do you forgive a murderer?
itsdemtitans said:Didn't Jesus forgive those who crucified him?
Are you saying we can only forgive are own murderers or can we forgive some one who murders someone else?
"Though everything inside of me wants to hate, be angry, and slip into despair I choose the route of forgiveness, grace and hope."
thenexttodie said:How do you forgive a murderer?
Dragan Glas said:The same way you forgive anyone - by having compassion for others.
You're assuming that someone who kills is "evil".
As I said, by understanding the reasons why they committed murder or, indeed, any other crime.thenexttodie said:thenexttodie said:How do you forgive a murderer?I'm talking about about murderers. I know this will probably blow your mind but it is possible to kill someone without murdering them.Dragan Glas said:The same way you forgive anyone - by having compassion for others.
You're assuming that someone who kills is "evil".
So say someone murders your wife. Or someone elses wife. Or someones child. Show me how we can have forgiveness.
itsdemtitans said:We can forgive murderers, be they ours or others. Just this past month here in the US, a pastor's wife, pregnant with his daughter, was shot and killed. You can read the rest of the story here.
Wanna know what he had to say?
"Though everything inside of me wants to hate, be angry, and slip into despair I choose the route of forgiveness, grace and hope."
He chose to forgive the man who killed his wife and unborn child, despite how much he wanted to be hateful, because that's what God did for us.
"Authority"?thenexttodie said:Do you think that this man would have said this if it meant that his wife's murderer would then be set free to go unpunished? And if so, how would this fit with any rational justice system? No, this man has no authority to forgive his wifes murderer. In the same way I cannot forgive a person who stole $100 from you.itsdemtitans said:We can forgive murderers, be they ours or others. Just this past month here in the US, a pastor's wife, pregnant with his daughter, was shot and killed. You can read the rest of the story here.
Wanna know what he had to say?
"Though everything inside of me wants to hate, be angry, and slip into despair I choose the route of forgiveness, grace and hope."
He chose to forgive the man who killed his wife and unborn child, despite how much he wanted to be hateful, because that's what God did for us.