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The dangers of faith

JacobEvans

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About a week ago, I was arguing with 4 usually intelligent people that said that faith is a good thing. I said that faith can lead people to danger on the basis of a belief that has no evidence, and I cited the 9/11 attackers as an example of this.

In any other argument they would have taken the anti-Al Qaeda stance, but since they felt that if they went against Al Qaeda's use of faith, then they would be arguing against all faith, which is what should have happened, but instead they actually said that they died for what they believed in and asked "Who are we to tell them what to believe?" and then refused to say that the hijackers were doing something unjust.

I couldn't believe it, conservatives who are for the Iraq war and hate gay marriage, will actually defend the 9/11 attacks to justify their own faith's.

What the hell do you say to that?
 
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Well you can't tell someone what to believe, but you should be able to work out when somebody does something morally reprehensible.

Further evidence that faith destroys human decency and morality.
 
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I just find it amazing how fast someone can change from a die hard born-again Christian conservative into an apologist for the Mujahideen just by attacking faith.

The best part about all of this is that their reaction kind of proves my point.
 
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JacobEvans said:
I couldn't believe it, conservatives who are for the Iraq war and hate gay marriage, will actually defend the 9/11 attacks to justify their own faith's.

What the hell do you say to that?
I'm surprised you ran into honest "conservatives." Most of them agree with terrorism in principle. It is no coincidence that Christian right-wingers push for the same sort of causes, and tend to boycott the same human rights declarations, as those countries with the most extreme fundamentalist governments. It is no surprise that they support torture, and attack the Bill of Rights (except for the gun one, because they DO love the idea of murdering people), and generally suck as human beings.

The cornerstone of their faith is that they are the chosen people, on a mission from their imaginary friend, and that anything they do is "just" and "moral" because they believe in it and that means anything they do is acceptable by definition.
 
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JacobEvans said:
I just find it amazing how fast someone can change from a die hard born-again Christian conservative into an apologist for the Mujahideen just by attacking faith.
Well you don't need to be an apologist for all Mujahedeen some of them are doing a pretty good job in Afganistan fighting for human rights (oops I mean man rights). The problem are the ones calling for the restoration of the Caliphate that are willing to use any means necessary to achieve their goal. To support their actions and right to perform those actions is masochistic in the extreme.

I suppose they are supposed to love their enemy though.
 
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Damn you Aught3! :D

I'm aware of the issues at hand. I was just making a comment on the irony of a person who would in any other situation condemn the 9/11 hijackers as evil murderers, actually defending their actions in order to avoid condemning faith as dangerous.
 
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