Thank you for taking the vaccine

[Niocan]

I'm here on behalf of SarcasmCorp Inc. to thank each and every person who bought into the pharmaceutical scandal that is the Swine flu.

The parliament motion was introduced by Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, former SPD Member of the German Bundestag and now Chairman of the European Parliament Health Committee. Wodarg is a medical doctor and epidemiologist, a specialist in lung disease and environmental medicine, who considers the current "pandemic" Swine Flu campaign of the WHO to be "one of the greatest medicine scandals of the Century."[1]

So, Thank you Without your help our stocks would be lower and your own ability to be actual Humans would be higher. Please trust us when we say it was safe, as clearly the pandemic would not have happened if we didn't inject as many people as we can. We're here to help you, not our stockholders, so we can all live healthy lives

The text of the resolution just passed by a sufficient number in the Council of Europe Parliament says among other things, "In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines.

Warning: Please don't believe anyone but us about this, as we have many high ranking slaves programmed to "freely think and converse" about every detail of this product; Trust us, we're here for your own good after all

Remember: You have the divine ability to choose between Love and fear at any moment, so thank you for perpetuating fear. <3

 

[Niocan]

I'm sorry, but can the moderator that moved this from the Politics forum undo their change? You've seemed to miss that both quotes are talking about political actions and questions. This is only a conspiracy in your eyes; Normal humans should see this as a simple political scandal with leading corporations in it for their own greed.
Thank you.

 

[scalyblue]

But it is a conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy theory is a term that originally was a neutral descriptor for any claim of civil, criminal or political conspiracy. However, it has come almost exclusively to refer to any fringe theory which explains a historical or current event as the result of a secret plot by conspirators of almost superhuman power and cunning.[1][2]

 

[Niocan]

You believe that corporations don't strive for profit? That's a very basic initiative in any market place.. Why would the WHO change the definition just before the start of this certain 'pandemic', if only for the profit of those who can take advantage of such a situation?

 

[scalyblue]

You believe that corporations don't strive for profit? That's a very basic initiative in any market place.. Why would the WHO change the definition just before the start of this certain 'pandemic', if only for the profit of those who can take advantage of such a situation?

You are describing a current event as the result of a secret plot by an exceptionally cunning organization, it's the textbook definition of a conspiracy theory.

 

[Niocan]

You really think it takes an "exceptionally cunning organization"? Interesting, why do you think each and every human is as rational as the next? Surely you know of the irrationality of religion and its effects, so how certain is your own stance?

Are you sure this isn't part of the ego, trying to defend a world view that you hold so dearly?

 

[scalyblue]

You really think it takes an "exceptionally cunning organization"? Interesting, why do you think each and every human is as rational as the next? Surely you know of the irrationality of religion and its effects, so how certain is your own stance?

Are you sure this isn't part of the ego, trying to defend a world view that you hold so dearly?

What does rationality have to do with this. If you really believed half of the garbage you post, you'd be living proof that every human isn't rational.

My stance? My stance is that I use the same words everybody else does, and I expect them to mean the same thing. What's your definition of cunning? Mine happens to be "a marked skill in deception or deep political machinations."

The problem with xanatos gambits is that they do not actually work

 

[Niocan]

So you're still hiding behind your own false assertion that I'm a troll and nothing else; Someone here not to provoke debate and put forth opinions but to make others as angry as I can?
I think, that going back to my first major topic (Colloidal silver) and actually following the simple experiment and applying it to whatever thou wilt to prove the concept right or wrong will tell you if I'm indeed a troll or not... You can justify not doing the said experiment all you want, but until it's done you can't say for certain *anything* of the matter.

 

[scalyblue]

So you're still hiding behind your own false assertion that I'm a troll and nothing else; Someone here not to provoke debate and put forth opinions but to make others as angry as I can?
I think, that going back to my first major topic (Colloidal silver) and actually following the simple experiment and applying it to whatever thou wilt to prove the concept right or wrong will tell you if I'm indeed a troll or not... You can justify not doing the said experiment all you want, but until it's done you can't say for certain *anything* of the matter.

Yup, definitely a troll.

You see, if you went back to your first major topic and read it, you would see all of the gigantic, gaping holes I blew in the device, the process, the core concept, and the methodology. I'm not the only one who has done this either. You promptly ignored everything anybody who disagreed with you has said and continued to make your unfounded assertions, from the standpoint of somebody who has special information and anybody who doesn't agree with you is part of the conspiracy.

But I digress, you still haven't furnished any information that puts this notion out of the realm of a conspiracy theory

 

[obsidianavenger]

You really think it takes an "exceptionally cunning organization"? Interesting, why do you think each and every human is as rational as the next? Surely you know of the irrationality of religion and its effects, so how certain is your own stance?

Are you sure this isn't part of the ego, trying to defend a world view that you hold so dearly?

are you sure you aren't seeing agency where there is none? kind of like... oh, i don't know.... how people see the "order" of the universe and decide that god dun it?

 

[Niocan]

Then you've bound yourself by your own ignorance, as every part of the process I defined at the start holds true when held by your own hands. I still make some every week and I'm still not turning blue in any small degree; If you really want to put your own stance to test, try the simple setup and report your own findings. You'll find that the 'gaping holes' you 'blew into the argument' don't implode the argument like you think they do, but you will never agree with me unless either someone in some place of power says so or you actually do it yourself.

To obsidianavenger: I'm simply pointing out that companies must strive for survivability, and sometimes they do crazy advertising campaigns based on nothing but fear.

 

[obsidianavenger]

To obsidianavenger: I'm simply pointing out that companies must strive for survivability, and sometimes they do crazy advertising campaigns based on nothing but fear.

thats true. but you can't really get from there to a swine flu conspiracy, and there is no good reason to think that a large corporation can completely obscure the truth from the public if the public are interested in discovering it

 

[Niocan]

thats true. but you can't really get from there to a swine flu conspiracy, and there is no good reason to think that a large corporation can completely obscure the truth from the public if the public are interested in discovering it

Are the public actively looking? Some are, they speak of the additional information, and are shunned out of existence by the heard; So, where's the problem?

 

[obsidianavenger]

thats true. but you can't really get from there to a swine flu conspiracy, and there is no good reason to think that a large corporation can completely obscure the truth from the public if the public are interested in discovering it

Are the public actively looking? Some are, they speak of the additional information, and are shunned out of existence by the heard; So, where's the problem?

no one can be shunned out of existence... maybe "silenced" but thats what free speech is all about dealing with...

furthermore, the problem is that you haven't provided any information, you provided a theory resting on a circumstantial, inconclusive group of facts.

 

[Krpi]

Ahahah, yes, this is by no means a conspiracy theory!

No but really, I'd like to know if it was the non-bioaccumulative preservatives or the pieces of dead bacteria that made this a real pandemic? Not to mention that we haven't had a pandemic over here even though we have had a big vaccination campaign. Makes it kinda hard to relate to your story

But Niocan since you're into all these conspiracy theories, what happened to the micro chips that the evil NWO was going to inject into us with these flu vaccines? I thought that story was much more entertaining than this one.

 

[scalyblue]

 

[AndromedasWake]

I'm sorry, but can the moderator that moved this from the Politics forum undo their change? You've seemed to miss that both quotes are talking about political actions and questions. This is only a conspiracy in your eyes; Normal humans should see this as a simple political scandal with leading corporations in it for their own greed.
Thank you.

Anti-vax threads belong in Conspiracy Theories, alt-med in Pseudoscience. If you aren't sure, post in General Scepticism. Please note that the politics section is not for political conspiracy theories, such as swine flu denial/NWO, just as the science section is not for science conspiracy theories, such as climate change denial. Please post in the appropriate section. Thanks.

 

[Niocan]

Anti-vax threads belong in Conspiracy Theories, alt-med in Pseudoscience. If you aren't sure, post in General Scepticism. Please note that the politics section is not for political conspiracy theories, such as swine flu denial/NWO, just as the science section is not for science conspiracy theories, such as climate change denial. Please post in the appropriate section. Thanks.

The Council of Europe member states will launch an inquiry in January 2010 on the influence of the pharmaceutical companies on the global swine flu campaign, focusing especially on extent of the pharma's industry's influence on WHO. The Health Committee of the EU Parliament has unanimously passed a resolution calling for the inquiry. The step is a long-overdue move to public transparency of a "Golden Triangle" of drug corruption between WHO, the pharma industry and academic scientists that has permanently damaged the lives of millions and even caused death.


The parliament motion was introduced by Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, former SPD Member of the German Bundestag and now chairman of the Health Committee of PACE (Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe). Wodarg is a medical doctor and epidemiologist, a specialist in lung disease and environmental medicine, who considers the current "pandemic" Swine Flu campaign of the WHO to be "one of the greatest medicine scandals of the Century."[1]

The text of the resolution just passed by a sufficient number in the Council of Europe Parliament says among other things, "In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines. The "bird-flu"-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu"-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health-budgets, but to the credibility and accountability of important international health-agencies."[2]

The Parliamentary inquiry will look into the issue of ~falsified pandemic" that was declared by WHO in June 2009 on the advice of its group of academic experts, SAGE, many of whose members have been documented to have intense financial ties to the same pharmaceutical giants such as GlaxoSmithKline, Roche, Novartis, who benefit from the production of drugs and untested H1N1 vaccines. They will investigate the influence of the pharma industry in creation of a worldwide campaign against the so-called H5N1 "Avian Flu" and H1N1 Swine Flu. The inquiry will be given "urgent" priority in the general assembly of the parliament.

In his official statement to the Committee, Wodarg criticized the influence of the pharma industry on scientists and officials of WHO, stating that it has led to the situation where "unnecessarily millions of healthy people are exposed to the risk of poorly tested vaccines," and that, for a flu strain that is "vastly less harmful" than all previous flu epidemics.

Wodarg says the role of the WHO and its the pandemic emergency declaration in June needs to be the special focus of the European Parliamentary inquiry. For the first time, the WHO criteria for a pandemic was changed in April 2009 as the first Mexico cases were reported, to make not the actual risk of a disease but the number of cases of the disease basis to declare "Pandemic." By classifying the swine flu as pandemic, nations were compelled to implement pandemic plans and also the purchase swine flu vaccines. Because WHO is not subject to any parliamentary control, Wodarg argues it is necessary for governments to insist on accountability. The inquiry will also to look at the role of the two critical agencies in Germany issuing guidelines on the pandemic, the Paul-Ehrlich and the Robert-Koch Institute.

This is hardly my own assertion, or anything *other* then politics. Perhaps reading without a bias to one side would suffice for moving this back to where it belongs?
If I were to post about the effects themselves or maybe the reasoning or methodology behind this vaccination it would seem like a conspiracy, but actions taken in an investigation on this scale are more political then otherwise.

 

[5810Singer]

The Council of Europe member states will launch an inquiry in January 2010 on the influence of the pharmaceutical companies on the global swine flu campaign, focusing especially on extent of the pharma's industry's influence on WHO. The Health Committee of the EU Parliament has unanimously passed a resolution calling for the inquiry. The step is a long-overdue move to public transparency of a "Golden Triangle" of drug corruption between WHO, the pharma industry and academic scientists that has permanently damaged the lives of millions and even caused death.


The parliament motion was introduced by Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, former SPD Member of the German Bundestag and now chairman of the Health Committee of PACE (Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe). Wodarg is a medical doctor and epidemiologist, a specialist in lung disease and environmental medicine, who considers the current "pandemic" Swine Flu campaign of the WHO to be "one of the greatest medicine scandals of the Century."[1]

The text of the resolution just passed by a sufficient number in the Council of Europe Parliament says among other things, "In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines. The "bird-flu"-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu"-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health-budgets, but to the credibility and accountability of important international health-agencies."[2]

The Parliamentary inquiry will look into the issue of ~falsified pandemic" that was declared by WHO in June 2009 on the advice of its group of academic experts, SAGE, many of whose members have been documented to have intense financial ties to the same pharmaceutical giants such as GlaxoSmithKline, Roche, Novartis, who benefit from the production of drugs and untested H1N1 vaccines. They will investigate the influence of the pharma industry in creation of a worldwide campaign against the so-called H5N1 "Avian Flu" and H1N1 Swine Flu. The inquiry will be given "urgent" priority in the general assembly of the parliament.

In his official statement to the Committee, Wodarg criticized the influence of the pharma industry on scientists and officials of WHO, stating that it has led to the situation where "unnecessarily millions of healthy people are exposed to the risk of poorly tested vaccines," and that, for a flu strain that is "vastly less harmful" than all previous flu epidemics.

Wodarg says the role of the WHO and its the pandemic emergency declaration in June needs to be the special focus of the European Parliamentary inquiry. For the first time, the WHO criteria for a pandemic was changed in April 2009 as the first Mexico cases were reported, to make not the actual risk of a disease but the number of cases of the disease basis to declare "Pandemic." By classifying the swine flu as pandemic, nations were compelled to implement pandemic plans and also the purchase swine flu vaccines. Because WHO is not subject to any parliamentary control, Wodarg argues it is necessary for governments to insist on accountability. The inquiry will also to look at the role of the two critical agencies in Germany issuing guidelines on the pandemic, the Paul-Ehrlich and the Robert-Koch Institute.

What is the origin of this press release?

And why can't I find any mention of it on the Council of Europe's own website?

http://www.coe.int/

EDIT: Correction, I can find one mention of it:

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/WorkingDocs/Doc09/EDOC12110.htm

It doesn't match up with that press release though.

 

[Aught3]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16667

By F. William Engdahl, author of Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order.