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TBS "vs" Craig

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I've been watching a back and forth "dialogue" between Theoretical Bullshit and Dr. William Lane Craig for a while now. On TBS's side this consists of a number of YT videos that I've enjoyed watching. Here's the latest one in which TBS addresses Craig's ... "response" to his argument against the premises of Kalam and his own contentions.



In the description bar of the vid on YT there are a number of interesting links to an article and debates as well as the history of the "conversation" so far.

The reason for all the brackets, including the one in the title, is that, as I think you will notice, Craig fails to really address any point made and as such the conversation is, in terms of making sense and putting forth decent arguments, a little one sided in TBS's favour.

Enjoy :)
 
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The way TBS handled the situation was amazing, it wiped the the floor of the intelectual arena with Craig's corpse.
 
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About time another philosophically capable intellectual calls out Craig for his rampant condescension and sanctimony. Good show. Craig is a tricky sort in the sense that he's like shockofgod, except he probably knows more words than you do and has read more books.
 
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televator said:
About time another philosophically capable intellectual calls out Craig for his rampant condescension and sanctimony. Good show. Craig is a tricky sort in the sense that he's like shockofgod, except he probably knows more words than you do and has read more books.
Craig is a "professional" insofar his ad homenim and inflammatory skills go. His usual "arguments" are not even intelligible.
 
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televator said:
About time another philosophically capable intellectual calls out Craig for his rampant condescension and sanctimony. Good show. Craig is a tricky sort in the sense that he's like shockofgod, except he probably knows more words than you do and has read more books.

He just uses bigger words to shout the same bullshit.
It's the difference between me calling Shock a "dumbass" and me suggesting that he's a "half-wit Neanderthal that parrots off bullshit that supports his unsupported opinion without even checking that it turns over his own side quite easily."

One, I'm insulting. The other, I'm intellectually putting down.
 
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I remember seeing him on a show where he sat there proclaiming that all the great philosophers of modern time were theists. He had such a smug face while saying it too. I gotta be honest, as an adult, he's truly the first person I wanted to punch in the face...well, aside from Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, and Rove.

What a stupid argument. Must one really list the problems with this? This its the man that so many christian and even other theists refer to for "good" argument? It's all sophistry! The way he claims to have the academic, intellectual, and philosophical high ground is a perversion of all those things. He usually appears to set up win/win situations by either entangling opponents in these baited lure arguments, or even if the opponent ignores these traps it makes it look like he was right anyway. Then when it looks like you might just get him, he dances like no one Ive ever seen before. The guys is the dancing king of debate. What a subversive asshole!
 
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)O( Hytegia )O( said:
televator said:
About time another philosophically capable intellectual calls out Craig for his rampant condescension and sanctimony. Good show. Craig is a tricky sort in the sense that he's like shockofgod, except he probably knows more words than you do and has read more books.

He just uses bigger words to shout the same bullshit.
It's the difference between me calling Shock a "dumbass" and me suggesting that he's a "half-wit Neanderthal that parrots off bullshit that supports his unsupported opinion without even checking that it turns over his own side quite easily."

One, I'm insulting. The other, I'm intellectually putting down.


And yet with both you are being quite accurate...
 
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televator said:
I remember seeing him on a show where he sat there proclaiming that all the great philosophers of modern time were theists. He had such a smug face while saying it too. I gotta be honest, as an adult, he's truly the first person I wanted to punch in the face...well, aside from Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, and Rove.

What a stupid argument. Must one really list the problems with this? This its the man that so many christian and even other theists refer to for "good" argument? It's all sophistry! The way he claims to have the academic, intellectual, and philosophical high ground is a perversion of all those things. He usually appears to set up win/win situations by either entangling opponents in these baited lure arguments, or even if the opponent ignores these traps it makes it look like he was right anyway. Then when it looks like you might just get him, he dances like no one Ive ever seen before. The guys is the dancing king of debate. What a subversive asshole!

From his behavior, I would posit the conjecture that the only Philosopher that Craig has read over is Arthur Schopenhauer.
 
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)O( Hytegia )O( said:
He just uses bigger words to shout the same bullshit.
It's the difference between me calling Shock a "dumbass" and me suggesting that he's a "half-wit Neanderthal that parrots off bullshit that supports his unsupported opinion without even checking that it turns over his own side quite easily."

One, I'm insulting. The other, I'm intellectually putting down.

I guess creatards have methods that are intellectually reducible. The problem is just being quick to their tricks through all the pseudo intellectual fluff...which Tfoot totally failed on again against banana man. Why the hell did he think it would be a good idea to let him hold the mic? Did anyone see that vid?
 
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televator said:
)O( Hytegia )O( said:
He just uses bigger words to shout the same bullshit.
It's the difference between me calling Shock a "dumbass" and me suggesting that he's a "half-wit Neanderthal that parrots off bullshit that supports his unsupported opinion without even checking that it turns over his own side quite easily."

One, I'm insulting. The other, I'm intellectually putting down.

I guess creatards have methods that are intellectually reducible. The problem is just being quick to their tricks through all the pseudo intellectual fluff...which Tfoot totally failed on again against banana man. Why the hell did he think it would be a good idea to let him hold the mic? Did anyone see that vid?

If you post it, I will report you.

Simply because it is so much fail that it deserves to just be lost in the ether of the intertubes.
 
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