MatthewLee said:I missed that part. A bigot is "a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions." I tolerate your opinion. I just disagree vehemently. Only one of us wants the other's opinions censored in public and is trying to get into public office to do that. Only the worst kind of human being believes in censorship. You want to shut off my end of the debate in any way you can and you show that in every piece of art you make. You'd be burning Bible's by the thousands if you could. That's a bigot.
Any evidence for all this character assassination?
Where has AronRa tried to censor your opinions?
I was under the impression he actively invited you here so that you could discuss your opinion with him - that doesn't seem to tally with the picture you're trying to paint here.
MatthewLee said:For the record.. I called you a fraud not because I am intolerant of you or your beliefs but because I believe you are wrong and dishonest. I served my country to prove I believe that you have a right to your opinion. I would risk my life to defend your right to speak your mind in public and I hate what you do... but I would die to defend your right to do it.
i) calling someone a fraud doesn't look like you give two hoots about opinions, and as it's an accusation, you need to support it with material evidence. Otherwise, tossing out such labels is just a discoursive strategy, which according to your own definition would thereby be dishonest, and consequently make you the target of your own labels.
ii) you didn't serve your country to protect peoples' opinion; that's garbled ideological bollocks. Not one action you ever took preserved AronRa's opinion.
iii) if you want to be seen as a defender of free speech and free thought, then perhaps it would be better not to call people names for expressing their free speech and thought?
MatthewLee said:And I called you a coward because at least five of my answers to your original debate request disappeared from youtube. It left it looking like I simply ran away from your original challenge. Maybe that was a coincidence, not sure. If it was then you're not a coward. Only you know for sure.
That's how tenuous it is.
Firstly, you call him a fraud because you 'believe' he is wrong and dishonest, then you call him a 'coward' because you can't find some of the comments you made on YT. Neither of your reactions follows logically - really, it looks like you're just trying to justify acting like an asshole.
The way you've written the last accusation looks particularly mendacious, allow me to exemplify:
I don't know if you're a pedophile, but if you aren't sexually aroused by kids, then ok. Only you know for sure.
It's still an accusation, only the way it's framed puts maximal doubt on the target, frames their potential innocence as being unknowable, and allows you to assume their guilt.
If you can't support your accusation, how about not fucking making an accusation in the first place?
Sorry pal, you're not winning anything here so far acting like this.
MatthewLee said:I stand by everything else I said....
That is about as helpful as sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting LA LA LA
MatthewLee said:and again, one by one we can do this but your jamming, spamming, gish galloping only proves you can't stand the weight of specific critical assessment on any one specific point in prolonged debate.
None of which is evident to anyone else except you, but interestingly, you are using these accusations instead of engaging in substantive debate, suggesting you are projecting here.
MatthewLee said:This was what the posts that disappeared from youtube said.
Post you assert you made, but which no one actually knows the truth of. So if we're playing the insinuate and accuse game, shouldn't you be just as much open to those insinuations and accusations?
I mean, normally I would suggest there could be some technical error, or even user error - but given your discursive strategy so far, wouldn't it be more apposite to call you a liar and dismiss the notion that you ever made such posts?
Or is sauce only for the goose?
MatthewLee said:If your willing to take on all comers then lets do this and to the end. If not then don't make excuses and just say you won't but don't act sanctimonious like someone who is deigning to speak to me because the only things you have proved so far is that you have little or no formal education and are perfectly willing to accuse Jews of supporting child sacrifice, slavery and evil with a religion they practice today. They call that anti-semitism. That's a bigot.
Your sentence doesn't know when to end.
Any chance there's some evidence for this paragraph's accusation?
Can you quote AronRa accusing Jews of supporting child sacrifice? Or is there a slim chance that he said nothing of the sort and you've made it all up?