Re: What to do about North Korea?
That's nice, we're talking about HUMAN reproduction here, I specifically said HUMAN reproduction in the last post. That's sexual and binary. You can't do it alone, you can't do it with 3 people (you can have a threesome but the result will still have only 2 parents), you can't do it with 2 dudes or 2 gals and you certainly can't divide yourself into two people. What other species are like in this regard is not my concern today and is wholly irrelevant for this topic. Are you really this dense that you're going to imply that because guppies can change sex then that somehow applies to human biology by some weird extrapolation?
To equate intersex people or people born without genitals (who have a birth defect and are often infertile) with say gastropods (containing many species that are hermaphrodites inherently, not as some genetic defect) is totally disingenuous of you. I'm surprised you didn't bring up cellular division of microorganisms (equally irrelevant).
Says the guy who thinks gender distinctions and the way certain non-human species reproduce can be extrapolated to humans.
I love that you said "both sexes", yes, only two.
I wasn't talking about asexuality or homosexuality. I don't claim that either are illnesses, although now that you mentioned it, male on male anal sex is a particularly high risk behavior.
That said, asexuality is a weird one, sexual drive is part of our biology so if you have none, that's kind of like not being able to sense smell. Somewhere, something is probably broken. I don't think it's considered an illness of any kind, although it can certainly be caused by some medical condition.
So how does one tell the difference between a genuine asexual (assuming they exist) and someone with so low testosterone that he just can't get aroused? A healthy young male especially should not be able to resist for long without getting the urge to at least masturbate, typically at the thought of naked ladies. Or somehow who went through trauma early in life (rape) and has been totally put off from sex for life? Or some other medical condition I don't know about. Sorry, I'm not really buying that this is a genuine "orientation". People who think they're asexuals should at least be encouraged to see a doctor, just like people who can't smell stuff or taste food should see a doctor.
Sparhafoc said:For starters, the neuter gender is seen throughout nature in everything from insects to crustaceans to mammals - there's even something expressly Darwinian to it.
In fact, the American biologist E. O. Wilson labeled humans a eusocial species in The Social Conquest of the Earth (2012).
Look up eusociality, then form an opinion.
Next up, hermaphroditism, particularly common in fish, can either be sequential or simultaneous. In the former case, an organism can switch sexes sometimes many times over the course of their lives. Guppies are a great example of this: fill a tank with females and some of them will begin to change shape and eventually become males - actually, the ones further back in the switch will stop when too many males become present and slowly switch back to being female. In simultaneous hermaphroditism, more common in annelids, gastropods and again fish, animals possess both sets of reproductive organs meaning that in a bonding species the couple can switch back and forth being mother or father, and some can even self-fertilize meaning their offspring's genetic material is wholly derived from a single parent.
So perhaps first inform yourself, then make informed assertions?
That's nice, we're talking about HUMAN reproduction here, I specifically said HUMAN reproduction in the last post. That's sexual and binary. You can't do it alone, you can't do it with 3 people (you can have a threesome but the result will still have only 2 parents), you can't do it with 2 dudes or 2 gals and you certainly can't divide yourself into two people. What other species are like in this regard is not my concern today and is wholly irrelevant for this topic. Are you really this dense that you're going to imply that because guppies can change sex then that somehow applies to human biology by some weird extrapolation?
To equate intersex people or people born without genitals (who have a birth defect and are often infertile) with say gastropods (containing many species that are hermaphrodites inherently, not as some genetic defect) is totally disingenuous of you. I'm surprised you didn't bring up cellular division of microorganisms (equally irrelevant).
So funny when someone is so confident while being so utterly ignorant of reality.
Says the guy who thinks gender distinctions and the way certain non-human species reproduce can be extrapolated to humans.
How does lacking any sexual orientation at all, or finding both sexes equally attractive equate to an 'illness'? Do you have any actual scientific sources to back up your supposedly scientific claims?
I love that you said "both sexes", yes, only two.
I wasn't talking about asexuality or homosexuality. I don't claim that either are illnesses, although now that you mentioned it, male on male anal sex is a particularly high risk behavior.
That said, asexuality is a weird one, sexual drive is part of our biology so if you have none, that's kind of like not being able to sense smell. Somewhere, something is probably broken. I don't think it's considered an illness of any kind, although it can certainly be caused by some medical condition.
So how does one tell the difference between a genuine asexual (assuming they exist) and someone with so low testosterone that he just can't get aroused? A healthy young male especially should not be able to resist for long without getting the urge to at least masturbate, typically at the thought of naked ladies. Or somehow who went through trauma early in life (rape) and has been totally put off from sex for life? Or some other medical condition I don't know about. Sorry, I'm not really buying that this is a genuine "orientation". People who think they're asexuals should at least be encouraged to see a doctor, just like people who can't smell stuff or taste food should see a doctor.