Seven Amazing Scientific Discoveries that PROVE the Bible!!!

[quantumfireball2099]

Yeah, as you can imagine, I can across this website and was wondering if anyone has tackled each of these points specifically and if so, where could I find them? I appologize if I missed a topic on these boards with the same theme, if you don't mind linking me to it and closing this thread.

Otherwise, have fun!

Part 1 - http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/scientific-proofs-of-bible-1.html

Part 2 - http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/scientific-proofs-of-bible-2.html

EDIT: "Some of the fascinating questions answered in this article include:

"¢Was gravity known in Bible times?
"¢What 1977 ocean discoveries verified Bible statements?
"¢What should be the object of education?
"¢What is the connection between your body cells and your ancient ancestors?
"¢What did World War II pilots discover that verified a Bible statement?
"¢What 1854 archeological discovery verified Bible statements?
"¢Which body cells have to be replaced at the rate of 100 million per minute?
"¢What did the French mathematician Coeriolis discover that verified a Bible statement? "

 

[lrkun]

Re: Seven Amazing Scientific Discoveries that PROVE the Bibl

:shock: I can't read the references out of fear of becoming dumber. Nice post.

 

[DeathofSpeech]

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:shock: I can't read the references out of fear of becoming dumber. Nice post.

ouchie ouchie... It is worse than you imagined. :shock:

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

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Wait, Christian apologists devolving into Muslim-type arguments? Huh.

 

[Yfelsung]

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"Was gravity known in the bible?"

Well I'm sure they'd figured out that shit falls down. Pretty sure we had that one figured out before we'd even picked our knuckles up off the ground.

I love these arguments. It's like somehow if someone knew something ahead of their time it must have been KNOWLEDGE FROM GOD!

Worked with a Muslim guy who said that kind of stuff, specifically something about a description of human reproduction that was pretty accurate, if not using some odd terms. I tried to explain to him how advanced the Arab world was at one point, far outstripping European science and knowledge at the time, and he wouldn't budge on the "fact" that God told them this information.

When you put a perfectly logical and mundane explanation in front of them they'll be like "Well what are the odds of that?"... a whole lot better than the existence of an all powerful being.

 

[TheFlyingBastard]

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Worked with a Muslim guy who said that kind of stuff, specifically something about a description of human reproduction that was pretty accurate, if not using some odd terms. I tried to explain to him how advanced the Arab world was at one point, far outstripping European science and knowledge at the time, and he wouldn't budge on the "fact" that God told them this information.

Did he say that thing where the juices for procreation come from behind your rib or someshit like that?

 

[Yfelsung]

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No, it was some description of pregnancy but it said "leech" or some such instead of fetus and talked about how it attached to the womb and grew in size while feeding off the woman's food intake.

How much he may have exaggerated or how much may have been added in translation I don't know.

He was a Bosnian Muslim so I doubt he was reading it in Arabic.

 

[quantumfireball2099]

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"Was gravity known in the bible?"

They say that because the bible said the earth hung upon nothing, that means they knew about gravity and were ahead of other religions who believed the earth was being held up by someone/something. Oh wait...

"Genesis 1:9-13 DAY 3
Pillars of the Earth

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The Bible also talks about the pillars of the earth. In Job 9:6 it says, "Who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars (ydwmu) tremble." The LXX says, "Who shakes the earth under heaven from its foundations and its pillars (stuloi) totter." In Psalm 75:3 it says, "The earth and all its inhabitants are melting away; I set firm its pillars (ydwmu)." The LXX says, "I have strengthened its pillars (stuloi)." In I Samuel 2:8 it says, "For the pillars of the earth are the Lord's and he had set the world upon them." The Hebrew word for pillar is yqxm. The root is qx meaning "to melt" (BDB 1980, 848). Therefore, yqxm means, "a molten like pillar." The only other place it occurs is in I Samuel 14:5 referring to a mountain. Probably the pillars of the earth are the same thing as the foundations of the earth which were mountains.

In Ugaritic we have seen that there are two mountains, trgzz and trmg that bind the earth. Gibson says that these twin mountains were founded in the earth-encircling ocean, and held up the firmament, and also marked the entrance to the underworld (1978, 66). The mountains are said to bind the earth. This may indicate that the mountains surrounded, and supported the earth as well as confine the netherworld. The mountains were seen as the foundations of the earth, and the support pillars for the heavens. The Hebrews probably held a very similar view as the verses above indicate, as well as later Hebrew writings. So the phrase "pillars of heaven" and "pillars of earth" are referring to the same mountains. One emphasizes the height of the mountains holding up heaven, the other emphasizes the depth of the mountains that hold the earth firm.

Dead Sea Scrolls
In an Aramaic text of the Testament of Levi from Qumran it says, "And I saw the heavens opened and I saw below me a high mountains which touched the heavens and I was upon it. And the gates of heaven were opened to me" (Clifford 1972, 188). So even those at Qumran believed certain mountains reached heaven.

So if creationists think that when someone says something that slightly resembles reality in their holy books, it must have been GODS WISDOM, but when it gives bad information... then what?

 

[Yfelsung]

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I had a dude try to pull the "Isiah said the earth was a circle, so they knew it was a sphere."

I then asked him to define the difference between a sphere and a circle, which he said "there is none".

I then asked him about the part where God sits on a throne where he can observe the entire earth. I handed him fooseball and asked him to position himself in a way that allowed him to see all surfaces of the fooseball at the same time... the best part was the 5 minutes he tried.

 

[lrkun]

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It's patternicity. Patternicity is finding meaningful patterns in meaningless noise. Therefore when theists see's things in nature which to their mind is analogous to their holy text, they conclude it is the work of god.

 

[RichardMNixon]

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6 is particularly incredible. God said the coasts are tiny, which is true because most of the volume of an atom is empty space. :facepalm:

 

[Nautyskin]

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"You can't prove the bible DIDN'T have scientific facts in it. These word combinations COULD'VE meant x, y or z"

I don't give a fuck. Evidence or shut the fuck up.

 

[SagansHeroes]

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"Was gravity known in the bible?"

Well in those days they believed the world was flat........ i.e... no.

 

[quantumfireball2099]

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"Was gravity known in the bible?"

Well in those days they believed the world was flat........ i.e... no.

Well they argue that, because one verse said that the earth is circle that automatically means a sphere.. which is obviously pure bunk... so they then move onto the gravity bs.

 

[RedYellow]

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I remember a creationist I debated once used the arguement that the bible saying there are too many stars to count is a scientific statement that was 'later proven true!' I couldnt help but laugh.

 

[quantumfireball2099]

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I remember a creationist I debated once used the arguement that the bible saying there are too many stars to count is a scientific statement that was 'later proven true!' I couldnt help but laugh.

wow, that statement... Why People Laugh at Creationists =)

 

[SagansHeroes]

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Did the bible know about Neptune and Uranus?

 

[RedYellow]

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I like how they try to say that the "Earth hangs on nothing" is a statement about what it does hang on. I mean couldnt God say something like, "Behold, the Earth circles the sun, tethered to it by an unseen force in the void of space" It's like saying that the TV doesnt have little people inside of it is an explaination of how it works.

 

[Deleted member 619]

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It's patternicity. Patternicity is finding meaningful patterns in meaningless noise. Therefore when theists see's things in nature which to their mind is analogous to their holy text, they conclude it is the work of god.

The word you're searching for there is 'pareidolia'.

 

[ThetaOmega]

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I had a dude try to pull the "Isiah said the earth was a circle, so they knew it was a sphere."

I then asked him to define the difference between a sphere and a circle, which he said "there is none".

I then asked him about the part where God sits on a throne where he can observe the entire earth. I handed him fooseball and asked him to position himself in a way that allowed him to see all surfaces of the fooseball at the same time... the best part was the 5 minutes he tried.

Wow, in 5 minutes he didn't think to say "the centre of the ball"?

It might be possible, strictly speaking, from an extradimensional perspective.